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Saudi journalist killed and hacked inside Saudi embassy in Istanbul
RE: Saudi journalist killed and hacked inside Saudi embassy in Istanbul
(October 30, 2018 at 7:11 pm)Macoleco Wrote: The fact the Saudi Arabia doesnt even have to hide the brutality of its theocracy in a globalized world, and still keep its political power in the international community, is scary
 It's becoming more and more difficult to deal with entrenched powers as the opportunity cost (and possible consequences) of conflict skyrockets.  
(October 30, 2018 at 11:14 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: The Sauds, they used to hide their brutality and only do foul crimes like this to the domestic grounds, or in other parts of Arabia.
But taking it to Europe, and butcher a journalist inside a consulate in a NATO country -and lying to the world officially- is the new thing. This is new, the kingdom was "not touched" in the media.
....except when they're producing and maintaining a terrorist movement that flies planes into buildings..I guess....?

I honestly don't know what to tell you.  It may be the case that ksa is great at hiding shit from -you-...a subject under it's control and authority.  That you, at some point in your life (long before you came here, obvs), came to the sudden realization that something was wrong with the place you live.  We've all been there.  
Quote:Many spoke about other hellish things which weren't exposed publicly yet -though I'm sure mostly all governments know it but didn't tell this citizens because the interest is too big with KSA-, but the stories include torture -very extreme to the degree of dying or get a permanent disability-, assassination, stalking and spying -there are whole buildings for that job and it was exposed to the media; it's not fantasy, and more.
Then why do I know that ksa is a hellhole?  My government and the media aren't doing a very good job of hiding that fact, lol.  

Quote:I would always support one idea: everybody have the right to live this life without compulsion. But to answer your last question: no. I think the Middle East is not one, and the people are cut between different factions. Too much pride over countries and flags that they didn't even make.
I'm not sure I understand you response, fully.  No as in -you- wouldn't like to wake up in a ksa that's a secular western democracy like canadia....or no as in you actually know that "the people" of ksa would not be behind that idea?  
Quote:The secular law doesn't put the possibility of a mad person (literally a psychopath) like MBS controlling a big economy, it didn't expect Hitler, or Stalin, and now it didn't expect characters like Kim of Korea and MBS in SA. Sanctions must be more serious, and a new backup is presented in the cases of psychopaths ruling over big economies.

It's scary beyond limit.

OFC it does...nutbar, lol.  Neither Hitler nor Stalin came as a surprise.  People were sounding the alarms a decade in advance - hell..a millennium in advance..  The trouble is that sovereignty is a thing, lol.  We've placed sanctions on NOKO for a long time..but we don't invade...and those sanctions have thusfar failed to topple the regime.  They may even have strengthened local support and further stratified anti-american sentiment. So long as the current regime of wherever maintains political stability the worlds options are limited in dealing with them. We can register our displeasure..say it was a stupid and horrible thing to do, and that the stupid and horrible thing is being done poorly, and that we would strongly prefer that they stop doing the stupid and horrible thing. We can stress that this will impact future relations, we could even walk away from the table -conceding all possible leverage and building their homegrown pr campaign for them in it's entirety while simultaneously impoverishing the people under the regime whom the regime does not even attempt to represent.

Sound familiar?
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RE: Saudi journalist killed and hacked inside Saudi embassy in Istanbul - by The Grand Nudger - October 31, 2018 at 7:24 am

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