(November 5, 2018 at 5:41 pm)Grandizer Wrote:(November 5, 2018 at 8:51 am)IWNKYAAIMI Wrote: I would define purpose as a reason to exist or working toward some sort of goal IDK? How would you define it?
Similar to yours.
If defined as "working toward some sort of goal", then we can have purpose without God.
And human societies and persons can dictate/determine our reason(s) for existence. Nothing about either definition you provided necessitates that a God has to exist for purpose to be a thing.
I agree with what you are saying, but would add that life is purposeless with or without a God. As you have stated persons can determine their own reasons for existence, someone might say "My purpose is to live a long and happy life" but that doesn't mean that they have a purpose, that is just their own idea of a purpose.
I think most people realise that in the big picture our lives are insignificant and pretty pointless, that's why theists claim that this is just a dress rehearsal and a real purposeful life is waiting. I've heard this claim many times.. "God has a purpose for us" but never an explanation of what that might be.
I'm probably not explaining my thoughts very well here and I'm pretty sick of typing the word purpose.
