Subjective Morality?

[The Grand Nudger]

I don't know.  That's why I consider all beliefs in context-- a philosophical position, for example.  Always implied is this: GIVEN X, then I believe Y.

My context is defined by the following philosophical positions (maybe a few more that I'm not aware of):
-other people are real
-the word "subjective" is a meaningful description
-the difference between morality and other ideas is that it discusses what should be done or believed
-"Should" requires goals, which serve as the context for moral actions and beliefs.  It's another level of GIVEN X, then Y, but now it's SHOULD Y.

Sure, I agree with all of that, unreservedly...but I asked you whether or not you even believed in a statement you made.  That's all I asked.  The answer to that is all that matters to cognitivism/noncognitivism.  Do you believe anything you just said, or was that all a really elaborate way to grunt?

I'll give an example.  Given that unnecessary human suffering is wrong, then rape is wrong; having established that moral truth by definition, we can now objectively establish in what cases someone has been raped, and to what degree the rape has caused unnecessary human suffering.  Given that property ownership is a thing which should be protected, then thievery is wrong.  Having established that moral truth by definition, we can objectively determine (through checking ID numbers etc.) whether thievery has occurred.

Do you believe that any of what you said above is true?  

But where do the Prime Givens come from?  Is there something outside human agency which dictates them?  In my view, there is not, unless you either include the idea of God, or discard the concept of subjective agency.

Right, and that's a question that's just over the horizon as we proceed.  Thing is, there are no "prime givens" unless ..at least..-those- beliefs can sometimes be true...as we diverge into different cognitivist theories you'll get different answers for where our prime givens come from.

An error theorist rejects prime givens. A subjectivist thinks that prime givens are mind dependent. A realist thinks that prime givens are externally referent. All three concede that there could be (or are) true prime givens.