RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help?
November 12, 2018 at 6:22 pm
(This post was last modified: November 12, 2018 at 6:35 pm by Huggy Bear.)
(November 12, 2018 at 4:38 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Magic book, like usual, offers a conflicting account.-
Quote:Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’Looks like fucking "jesus" thought that there was a little more to it than Huggy is telling us. No matter, I'm sure Huggy is qualified to correct the lord of creation ...that guys an idiot. What would he know?
I love it when you guys get on here and quote scripture like you have any idea of what you're talking about.
Jesus IS the holy spirit, so obviously if hes sitting there talking to you, no one is capable of yet receiving the holy spirit.
Quote:Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. - John 16:7*emphasis mine*
So Jesus is clearly not speaking of anyone that has received his spirit...
Take Peter for example, Peter was with Jesus for around 3 and a half years. Peter was casting out devils along with all the other disciples (Judas included) yet just before Jesus was was crucified, he tells Peter to strengthen his brethren AFTER he becomes CONVERTED... this shows you that working 'wonders' in Jesus name has nothing to do with having received the Holy Spirit.
Quote:But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren. - Luke 22:32*emphasis mine*
Your works have nothing to do with you getting into heaven. Just as in the example of the Hebrews having to apply the token of blood on their door posts for the death angel to pass over them, the Holy Spirit is the new token. Jesus was the lamb that died for our sin, and if you have the token applied, which is the Holy Spirit, God doesn't see your sin, he only sees Jesus Christ (who is blameless) in your place, which means you cannot be accused of anything....
Quote:There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus - Romans 8:1*emphasis mine*
As Jesus clearly stated "Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven."
Quote:Joel 2*emphasis mine*
28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.
30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.
31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the Lord come.
32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the Lord hath said, and in the remnant whom the Lord shall call.
The will of the Father is for you to repent, and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ (THIS is the name of the Lord), and receive the Holy Spirit; as I already stated, you cannot enter heaven without it.