DNA Proves Existence of a Designer

[Everena]

@Everena:

I'm a bit unclear about what you believe.  You say we are eternal, we reincarnate, and there is justice.  Do we continually run the circle of Samsara, suffering eternally, or is there some end in which all our suffering is justified and redeemed?  If there is, is that end the extinction of ourselves, or an eternal afterlife?  If it is an eternal afterlife, is it one of perpetual happiness, or will their be suffering, failure, and frustration in that afterlife?

I can of course only share with you what I believe to be true. I know God exists and that we have eternal life, but anything else I share are just simply my beliefs. I think we go through a series of lives here that are all challenges and specifically designed to help us become better and better as people. Any pain that we intentionally cause to others during these lives, we will suffer back. Any good we do, we will be rewarded for. The ultimate goal will be to achieve a godlke state of perfection so we are then deserving of an eternity in paradise. People will achieve it at different times depending on what they decide to do in each of their lives and how quickly they reach the goal. But everyone will get there, it is just a matter of how long it takes.

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Where are these theists that you can have productive conversations with? Any of them in this forum that can vouch for you?

They seem to be gone. And I don't think Drich will be vouching for me. (Not like I'll be vouching for him either.)

In response to your other post, I meant that you should educate yourself concerning the position of atheism/skepticism about God. I didn't mean to imply you were uneducated. I did say your logic was "horrid"... perhaps I could have been more constructive. But you ignored my earlier post where I took the time to explain exactly how your reasoning was fallacious and even provided a link giving more details. You were unphased by it. It's as if you don't care if your reasoning is sound. If a theist actually cares about logic, then that theist and I can use that as a foundation for our discourse.

If the conclusion doesn't follow from the premises, there is no use to making an argument in the first place. In future discussions with atheists, try to keep that in mind.

I hope you don't expect me to want to become an atheist, because if there is an extreme opposite of atheist, that would be me. I know why logic took you there though. I was raised by atheists and that is one of the reasons I feel comfortable having discussions with atheists. Your logic is faulty though and it is my opinion that you have been brainwashed by some fairly mean spirited folks who want you to fear death. By that I mean becoing extremely health conscious, thinking this is the only time you have. I just don't like it. There is something really off about it. I do not think the people who publicly go out of their way to try to convince others to be atheists are very good people. You may not agree with that, but I really hope you are all very careful about who you are listeining to.