(November 16, 2018 at 3:53 pm)Everena Wrote: Everena: It did not magically pop into existence with all that we have here, itself. "Things" without intelligence do not do that. It never has happened, never will happen.No one is telling you that "it" did...so...for the umpteenth time, this is a pointless objection. Go find someone who thinks that, and argue that with them? Why are you wasting your time litigating this with us?
Meanwhile, the comment that you responded to..with the above..had nothing to do with the above, and remains true regardless of whether "it" all magically popped into existence.
The entire universe..and everything in it, is only evidence of the universe and everything in it. If you would like to add an entity to that list, you will need evidence for that entity, not evidence for the universe.
Quote:Everena: I have been studying consciousness for over 20 years. I already explained what science has been able to do so far. They can see the parts of the brain we are experiencing consciousness in and that is all so far. That does explain how or why we have consciousness. (Ditto that for emotions) See for yourself. Neuroscientists are pondering and trying to prove different possible theories right now. https://neurosciencenews.com/consciousness-theory-9059/More pointless lies and still pointless. You made the claim that science does not know how or why we are conscious. That isn;t entirely true..and if it were..it would still only be an argument from ignorance.
Quote:Everena: Anyone who stated otherwise is WRONG. Ask any real scientist.There's no need...we already have citations from real scientists in the thread..which you could address at any point, if you so chose. You have decided, instead, to memory hole that.
Quote:Everena: Why? Because it completely proves you are wrong?More because it was almost unbelievably ignorant. If I hadn't heard dumber things on these boards for years I would never have believed that a person could say such a thing and be doing anything -other- than fucking around as a POE.
Quote:Everena: Then you believe in God.You're really struggling to get anything right today, huh? I know that our having food isn't a matter of chance or luck - but since I'm an atheist, and gods have nothing to do with our food...you shit the bed pretty hard here.
Quote:Everena: No, I am not. You need to look up strawman argument. No information has been provided to me and there is no explanation why food would taste delicious and provide us with energy and nutrients. And yes food has always been on this planet. And what they make new foods from has always been on this planet. And the other 7.8 million species of conscious life on this planet are just eating what here for them to eat, so you have no argument.[
You can directly address any of the many pages worth of evidence you have received, at this point. Otherwise, this is just a temper tantrum. There, there.
Quote:Everena: George Gallup, the most famous statistician who ever lived, said God can be proven statistically see quote https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/george_gallup_113367Lets see the math. You're going to have to show your work.
Quote:Everena: Actually your answer was a strawman. Avoiding the question.Temper tantrum.
Quote:Everena: Exactly.Yes, ev, exactly..we agree? Nothingness doesn't give a shit about us. And?
Quote:Everena: You are evidence and you are surrounded by nothing but evidence.You're going to need to provide evidence of the entity you'd like to add, not evidence of me. I'm already aware of my own existence, thx, lol?
You have been given every peice of evidence you;ve asked for in this thread. Will you be returning that courtesy by providing any evidence whatsoever for your repeated assertions, or not?
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