(November 24, 2018 at 10:40 pm)Paleophyte Wrote:Everena: False. No one knew quantum vibrations were occuring in the brain until late 2013/early 2014.(November 24, 2018 at 10:32 pm)Everena Wrote: What you are talking about is not information and you know it.
What I'm talking about is information by the definition that you very kindly provided. Information requires no consciousness. If you have two rocks then you have a distance between those two rocks. That's information.
Quote:And actually many scientists claimed the brain was too warm, wet and noisy for quantum processes
Too wet, warm and messy for coherence. Which it is. Please try and learn what you're babbling about.
Everena: No, exactly what I said is correct and you are wrong. You try to learn what you are blathering about.
Orch OR was harshly criticized from its inception, as the brain was considered too "warm, wet, and noisy" for seemingly delicate quantum processes.. However, evidence has now shown warm quantum coherence in plant photosynthesis, bird brain navigation, our sense of smell, and brain microtubules. The recent discovery of warm temperature quantum vibrations in microtubules inside brain neurons by the research group led by Anirban Bandyopadhyay, PhD, at the National Institute of Material Sciences in Tsukuba, Japan (and now at MIT), corroborates the pair's theory and suggests that EEG rhythms also derive from deeper level microtubule vibrations. In addition, work from the laboratory of Roderick G. Eckenhoff, MD, at the University of Pennsylvania, suggests that anesthesia, which selectively erases consciousness while sparing non-conscious brain activities, acts via microtubules in brain neurons.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20...085105.htm
Quote:and Penrose and Hameroff proved them all wrong. And no one knew there were quantum vibrations in our brain until 2014
Quantum vibrations are in everything, up to and including a theoretical perfect vacuum. That is literally the definition of zero point energy. If this were any less newsworthy it would have come out of the southern end of a north-bound bull.
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