RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 26, 2018 at 12:04 am
(This post was last modified: November 26, 2018 at 12:30 am by Angrboda.)
(November 25, 2018 at 11:59 pm)Everena Wrote:(November 25, 2018 at 11:42 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: That quantum vibrations were recently discovered does not at all show that scientists doubted that quantum vibrations were a part of microtubules prior to that or that critics doubted that such was the case. That's simply more bad logic on your part. As the Wikipedia article on Orch OR notes, the criticism was concerning decoherence in such an environment. To wit:It's in every single article I posted to him. The brain was considered to warm, wet and noisy for delicate quantum processes. What he said was that I needed to prove that quantum vibrations occuring in microtubules in the brain was a recent discovery, after I said they did not know about them until late 2013/early 2014. That is when it exactly was proven and corroborated and both quantum coherence and quantum vibrations occuring brain microtubules were proven at that time.
I think if anybody or lots of somebodies were claiming there were no quantum vibrations in microtubules, they would have noted it. But feel free to quote someone claiming that quantum vibrations do not occur in microtubules, because the above that you quoted isn't it. Do that, and I'll concede the point.
Orch OR was harshly criticized from its inception,as the brain was considered too "warm, wet, and noisy" for seemingly delicate quantum processes. However, evidence has now shown warm quantum coherence in plant photosynthesis, bird brain navigation, our sense of smell, and brain microtubules.
The recent discovery of warm temperature quantum vibrations in microtubules inside brain neurons by the research group led by Anirban Bandyopadhyay, PhD, at the National Institute of Material Sciences in Tsukuba, Japan (and now at MIT), corroborates the pair's theory and suggests that EEG rhythms also derive from deeper level microtubule vibrations. In addition, work from the laboratory of Roderick G. Eckenhoff, MD, at the University of Pennsylvania, suggests that anesthesia, which selectively erases while sparing non-conscious brain activities, acts via microtubules in brain neurons.
https://phys.org/news/2014-01-discovery-...rates.html
https://www.scribd.com/document/31829521...sciousness
https://www.journals.elsevier.com/physic...vibrations
Repeating what didn't prove it the first time doesn't prove it simply because you have repeated it.
It's obvious you're too stupid to understand what they were saying by saying that it was too warm, wet, and noisy. A fact which your repeating shit you don't understand does nothing to correct.
And no, that is not what he claimed. Your claim was that, "no one knew there were quantum vibrations in our brain until 2014." A claim you still haven't substantiated. He disputed that, and you haven't provided any evidence that anybody thought there weren't quantum vibrations in the brain or in the microtubules. The Wikipedia article notes that, "In 2000 Tegmark claimed that any quantum coherent system in the brain would undergo effective wave function collapse due to environmental interaction long before it could influence neural processes (the "warm, wet and noisy" argument, as it was later came to be known)." If the wave function collapses, that implies there was a time the wave function was not collapsed, which means that there were quantum vibrations in the microtubules. What Tegmark was disputing was the length to which such uncollapsed wave functions could exist, not that uncollapsed wave functions occur in the microtubules. So you are simply wrong.
Btw, you do realize that you're quoting the same article three times, right?
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