RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 6, 2018 at 5:25 am
(This post was last modified: December 6, 2018 at 5:25 am by pocaracas.)
(December 6, 2018 at 4:13 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: You can't validate a claim of nonexistence unless you define what it means to exist. I could say "Scooby Doo exists" and I could say "Scooby Doo doesn't exist" and both statements could be right simultaneously in their own context. Additionally, if you asked people randomly, "who is Scooby Doo?", most would probably answer without any regard for fact, fiction, ideology, or religious belief.
I'd say that, when people are discussing religion, "existence" pertains to only non-fictional things or characters; physical existence.
Certainly, there must be some physicality to fictional things, as they must somehow occupy the mental space, but those are solely in that mental realm, and without any presence outside of minds.
Scooby Doo exists as a fictional character, as a mental construct, well known to be a human invention and not an actual existing dog outside of human minds.
The concept of god, however, if it is fiction, is not well known to be a human construct, because it has been in human minds since before the advent of writing. Couple that unknown with the generations of people convinced of the actual existence of the god character and you have grounds for much misinformation.
On the other hand, if the god concept is not fiction, its apparent absence out of human minds does raise the question of what is the role of the clergy. Are they actual representatives or charlatans with (mostly) good intentions?
(December 6, 2018 at 4:13 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: That's the thing with a lot of the atheism vs theism debates. Much of it gets baked together unnecessarily, then you get a bunch of people yappin about how those on the other side of the fence are wrong. Optimally people would just work together to find answers and accept multiple possibilities when something is unknown.
I agree.
If it's unknown, should the starting point be "I believe this thing exists and I'll do anything to find it and convince others that it exists so that they too can look for it", or "I have no reason to accept that this thing exists, but if it is found then lets add it to our collection of knowledge"?