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Anti Trans And Why It Fails
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RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails
(December 9, 2018 at 5:28 am)onlinebiker Wrote:
(December 9, 2018 at 4:36 am)Amarok Wrote: I hope your not serious
Surely you' re not serious...



...


I' m quite serious and quit calling me Shirley....



Cool
No your seriously  nitpicking a spelling error while ignoring the vast amount of what i said

(December 9, 2018 at 5:43 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(December 9, 2018 at 4:36 am)Amarok Wrote: I hope your not serious

He is.  I think he's referring to you having typed 'gentiles' when you meant 'genitals'.

Boru
Yes i am aware but that's the thing he's going to comment on

(December 9, 2018 at 5:47 am)onlinebiker Wrote:
(December 9, 2018 at 5:43 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: He is.  I think he's referring to you having typed 'gentiles' when you meant 'genitals'.

Boru

Awww...


Now we' ll never know how long it would have taken him to figure it out..


Tongue
I figured it out 20 minutes after posting

Quote:For the record, I'm not anti-transgender. I'm anti-bad argument, and most of your blathering rant is just nonsense. However, it's pretty interesting that you give so much credit to APA and WHO, considering their reclassifications of transgender disorders such as gender dysphoria appear to be pure political theater
 Your statements below do not support this 

Quote:The APA, in a 2013 article titled Transgender Today was quite clear stating that while their new official position will be that being transgender is not in itself a disorder, the methods of diagnosis and treatment of transgenders was not actually changing. Their official position was, and still is, that they just don't want there to be a social stigma associated with transgender issues. Since the APA's position is that transgender people require professional mental health diagnosis and treatment because of specifically related mental issues, then it is clearly still considered a disorder to some degree whether they choose to call it one or not.
Disorder associated with being trans does not make trans a disorder and then theirs 

Quote:A psychological state is considered a mental disorder only if it causes significant distress or disability. Many transgender people do not experience their gender as distressing or disabling, which implies that identifying as transgender does not constitute a mental disorder. For these individuals, the significant problem is finding affordable resources, such as counseling, hormone therapy, medical procedures and the social support necessary to freely express their gender identity and minimize discrimination. Many other obstacles may lead to distress, including a lack of acceptance within society, direct or indirect experiences with discrimination, or assault. These experiences may lead many transgender people to suffer with anxietydepression or related disorders at higher rates than nontransgender persons.

According to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5), people who experience intense, persistent gender incongruence can be given the diagnosis of "gender dysphoria." Some contend that the diagnosis inappropriately pathologizes gender noncongruence and should be eliminated. Others argue that it is essential to retain the diagnosis to ensure access to care. The International Classification of Diseases (ICD) is under revision and there may be changes to its current classification of intense persistent gender incongruence as "gender identity disorder."
https://www.apa.org/topics/lgbt/transgender.aspx




Quote:WHO on the other hand, reclassified transgenderism in a slightly more offensive way. In June 2018 Dr. Jennifer Conti from WHO gave an interview to USA Today and said this: 
“By changing the class of this condition, the WHO is effectively saying to everyone and to the world that this is not a mental disorder and we support people who are transgender. It’s a really meaningful step because it promotes inclusivity, it promotes acceptance.” What Dr. Conti was referring to was the reclassification of transgenderism from a mental disorder a different classification. Now, WHO lumps transgenders together in the same category as peeping toms, sexual sadists, men with erectile dysfunction, and pedophiles. 
Which still back my point that it's not a mental illness and there is another problem with your statement . The "Sexual health issues " is an extremely broad category in relation to Trans there's .


Quote:3. Sexual health concerns related to gender
    • Need for gender equality.
    • Need for freedom from all forms of discrimination based on gender.
    • Need for respect and acceptance of gender differences.
And

Quote:

  • Clinical syndromes involving gender identity conflict such as adolescent gender dysphoria.
But as the APA points uot there is a difference between tans and gender dysphoria the rest really don't specifically deal with trans 
https://www.who.int/reproductivehealth/t...issues/en/


Quote:Clearly, your reason for using APA and WHO as cornerstones of your weird little rant was either ignorance or intellectual dishonesty. That aside, the reason anti-trans sentiment persists is really not difficult to understand. 
To bad it's not my cornerstone nor do you bother to address the majority of what i wrote

Quote:- Transgender activists are obnoxious.
Who cares that's not a justification for treating trans people poorly 



Quote:- The actual transgender population is a tiny minority. I know 1.6 million people sounds like a lot, but in a population of 326 million people transgenders represent a fraction of a percent of the population.
The size of a majority is of no consequence to how they are treated 


Quote:Frankly, there are larger minority groups who face ACTUAL oppression that deserve more attention than transgenders. 
Subjective opinion 


Quote:- No majority will willing cede special rights and privileges to a mathematically insignificant segment of the population.
What special rights and that just proves the majority are assholes 

Quote:- The eagerness of the aforementioned transgender activists to label anyone who thinks trannys aren't really special at all as bigots and homophobes probably creates more enemies than allies. 
The people they criticize don't do themselves any favors like yourself


Quote:- Bad arguments, like yours, simply fail to be convincing and are easily ignored and forgotten.
A thing you have yet to show . Half this post addresses nothing i brought up and the other does not debunk of my key points . So why did you even bother responding ?
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Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 9, 2018 at 2:41 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by onlinebiker - December 9, 2018 at 3:11 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 9, 2018 at 4:36 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by onlinebiker - December 9, 2018 at 5:28 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 9, 2018 at 12:29 pm
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 9, 2018 at 5:43 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by onlinebiker - December 9, 2018 at 5:47 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Mr.Obvious - December 9, 2018 at 5:19 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by I_am_not_mafia - December 9, 2018 at 5:50 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Maketakunai - December 9, 2018 at 6:25 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by I_am_not_mafia - December 9, 2018 at 6:50 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Maketakunai - December 9, 2018 at 7:55 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 9, 2018 at 1:29 pm
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 9, 2018 at 7:02 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by I_am_not_mafia - December 9, 2018 at 8:05 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by brewer - December 9, 2018 at 8:44 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Angrboda - December 9, 2018 at 11:28 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Maketakunai - December 10, 2018 at 1:51 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by onlinebiker - December 10, 2018 at 3:27 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 10, 2018 at 3:51 pm
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by no one - December 10, 2018 at 4:31 pm
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 10, 2018 at 5:02 pm
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Gwaithmir - December 11, 2018 at 11:28 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 11, 2018 at 11:52 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Rev. Rye - December 11, 2018 at 12:24 pm
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 11, 2018 at 12:46 pm
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RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 21, 2018 at 5:52 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Maketakunai - December 21, 2018 at 7:06 am
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RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 21, 2018 at 8:09 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Maketakunai - December 21, 2018 at 8:33 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Divinity - December 21, 2018 at 9:45 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 21, 2018 at 4:43 pm
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Maketakunai - December 22, 2018 at 3:28 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Divinity - December 22, 2018 at 9:57 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 27, 2018 at 6:27 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Jehanne - December 21, 2018 at 8:16 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 21, 2018 at 8:19 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Jehanne - December 21, 2018 at 8:21 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 21, 2018 at 8:23 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 21, 2018 at 8:35 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 22, 2018 at 4:00 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Maketakunai - December 22, 2018 at 6:44 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Jehanne - December 22, 2018 at 9:00 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 22, 2018 at 5:14 pm
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 22, 2018 at 7:07 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Jehanne - December 22, 2018 at 8:32 pm
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 22, 2018 at 9:45 pm
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Maketakunai - December 23, 2018 at 2:58 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Jehanne - December 23, 2018 at 10:09 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 23, 2018 at 4:41 pm
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 23, 2018 at 8:13 pm
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Jehanne - December 23, 2018 at 8:39 pm
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 23, 2018 at 8:42 pm
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Maketakunai - December 24, 2018 at 3:12 am
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RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 24, 2018 at 2:51 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 24, 2018 at 4:04 am
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RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 24, 2018 at 4:54 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Maketakunai - December 24, 2018 at 5:31 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 24, 2018 at 5:55 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Maketakunai - December 24, 2018 at 7:06 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 24, 2018 at 7:20 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Maketakunai - December 24, 2018 at 7:52 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by LastPoet - December 25, 2018 at 6:26 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 25, 2018 at 6:30 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 24, 2018 at 8:16 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Jehanne - December 25, 2018 at 1:49 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 25, 2018 at 2:28 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Maketakunai - December 25, 2018 at 6:37 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Jehanne - December 25, 2018 at 6:52 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 25, 2018 at 6:04 pm
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 25, 2018 at 7:12 pm
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 24, 2018 at 8:45 pm
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by downbeatplumb - December 25, 2018 at 11:06 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Nay_Sayer - December 25, 2018 at 5:46 pm

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