Anti Trans And Why It Fails

[Amarok]

I know. How dare they demand the same basic human rights as everyone else. It's a wonder why they just don't accept being erased out of existence to satiate other people's bigotry. It is so selfish of them to complain.

I'm still trying to work out the coding for this forum, so for simplicity my response to you will be in bold print.

For the record, define precisely which "rights" you believe are being denied.


As usual an American thinking that America equals the entire world.

I'm not a globalist. Whatever is happening in your own country is your own lookout.

Q) Why should the actual transgender population size being relatively small be a reason for anti-transgender sentiment? How can this in any way be a justification? Do you think the same justification can be used for anti-semitism? For open bigotry against the disabled?  It's the fact that the population is small means they are more vulnerable.

I find this to be a complete bullshit position, considering that we are currently on a website where people openly ostracize others for their religious beliefs and political positions.



And what is ACTUAL oppression then and what gives you the right to draw the line? Surely being physically and sexually abused, forced sterilisation, denied basic human rights such as the right to get married or to use the toilet, work place discrimination forcing people into poverty, and all because of a medical condition that they had no choice over, surely this is ACTUAL oppression? Have you experienced oppression yourself? Ever? What makes you think that you have the right to determine whether someone else is being oppressed when you don't even know what the word means. If a small population is facing oppression to the point where well over 40% of them try to commit suicide, surely that is worthy of being called ACTUAL oppression?

You do realize that I have the exact same right to make up my mind about what constitutes oppression as anyone else, don't you? I think you're oppressing me right now by telling me I don't have the right to think my own thoughts...

No one has ever denied people the right to marry, or use the toilet, or "forced people into poverty" for being transgender.  You are confusing the non-right to enter a marriage contract (or any contract) using factually and clerically incorrect information with the right to use your real information on a legal document. You are confusing the non-right to use whatever toilet you want to use with the right to use the toilet that is designated to your biological sex.

Again, I will point out that we are on a website where it's acceptable to openly mock others for their beliefs and opinions until they're driven from the public discourse. So, don't give me a bunch of bullshit about how awful it is to bully people in the workplace or that people you personally support are so thin skinned that they can't handle taking responsibility for their own decisions.[b]

[b][b]Life is not always fair, and the personal decisions people make affect their lives as much as any of this alleged oppression you're nattering on about. Violating social norms in public is a choice. For example: Did you know that 2 genes have been identified that make people more likely to commit crimes because they elevate their anti-social behaviors and tendencies toward violence? Most governments have rightly decided that things like rape, murder, and theft are not in the best interest of society. A person might be born with these genes, but it is only when they act on the behaviors they were born with that they run afoul of society.

Just because someone is "born that way" doesn't mean they should be allowed free reign to act as they please if they expect to be accepted into the society in which they live.

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But why not cede basic human rights?

You seem to think that a wondrous variety of non-rights are actually rights. What you believe to be "basic human rights" appear to be mostly wishful thinking.


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Or you might just be a bigot with a sense of entitlement and privilege who wants to feel superior to some other group rather than actually better yourself as a person.

And, there is is. You make demands that people subject themselves to your special brand of group-think while treating them in the exact same way you do not want to be treated yourself. THank you for illustrating my point so well.[/b][/b][/b]

So you whole position can be boiled down to your an asshole who believes for idiotic reasons that trans people should be treated like shit . and it's hilarious you bring up trans rights something that was never point of my post . Very telling . Anyway that all i can stomach of you feel free to respond just don't expect a response . You clearly have nothing of importance to say on this .

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Now can someone with a brain in their skull who doesn't want to use my thread as a soap box's for their deranged Right Wing whinging and conspiracies please respond .