RE: Is atheism a belief?
December 11, 2018 at 6:57 am
(This post was last modified: December 11, 2018 at 7:04 am by Whateverist.)
You've misattributed these quotes to the wrong member. I'm the one you're answering here.
You can go with a more informal definition but then you'll just be begging the question "what makes you so sure you know that?"
So you're basically saying "I go with what I know". Does that mean you're not claiming that what you 'know' should count as a fact for anyone else, that you have no justification for what you think is true you could reasonably expect to convince anyone else? If that is what you mean, why call it knowledge? Isn't it really just what you happen to believe?
I don't know anyone who thinks agnosticism implies atheism. Every right thinking theist should also be an agnostic. However fewer theists get to that point, though they do exist and are not rare if you know where to look.
I do not claim that agnosticism implies atheism, I just happen to be both myself. Are you saying then that you are an agnostic theist? If so, much respect. There is nothing wrong with that.
(December 11, 2018 at 5:04 am)Agnostico Wrote:\wyzas'{sic} Wrote:Knowledge is usually defined as justified true belief.No. I use the dictionary definition.
Are you seriously claiming all your beliefs are knowledge based by this definition?
You can go with a more informal definition but then you'll just be begging the question "what makes you so sure you know that?"
So you're basically saying "I go with what I know". Does that mean you're not claiming that what you 'know' should count as a fact for anyone else, that you have no justification for what you think is true you could reasonably expect to convince anyone else? If that is what you mean, why call it knowledge? Isn't it really just what you happen to believe?
(December 11, 2018 at 5:04 am)Agnostico Wrote:\wyzas'{sic} Wrote:You seem to be having trouble with the idea that a person can reasonably check both boxes:I didn't say that. I reject the claim that some people make which is agnosticism automatically equals atheism
no, I hold no belief in any god; and no, I don't know if any gods actually exist
I don't know anyone who thinks agnosticism implies atheism. Every right thinking theist should also be an agnostic. However fewer theists get to that point, though they do exist and are not rare if you know where to look.
I do not claim that agnosticism implies atheism, I just happen to be both myself. Are you saying then that you are an agnostic theist? If so, much respect. There is nothing wrong with that.