RE: Is atheism a belief?
December 12, 2018 at 10:47 pm
(This post was last modified: December 12, 2018 at 10:49 pm by Agnostico.)
(December 12, 2018 at 7:00 pm)Grandizer Wrote:(December 12, 2018 at 6:14 pm)Agnostico Wrote: "We don't believe there are any gods" but we also "don't believe there are no Gods". Then which God do u believe in? Very confused are these atheists. The determination to redefine a simple definition with false grammar is amazing. What is the motivation...
The simple definition is that atheism is not theism. What part of that do you not fucking understand?
Mere atheism is not an assertive statement about anything, so it makes sense to say that mere atheism neither asserts/suggests the existence of god(s) nor asserts/suggests the non-existence of god(s). It's just a lack of belief in god(s) ... a "lack of theism".
Quote:The blatent contradiction of these statements are so ridiculous only one person has given a good argument for this while the rest continue to be driven by emotion.
If you think there's a blatant contradiction here, please point it out properly because I'm not seeing it.
Lack of belief in "A" does not logically necessarily mean belief in "not A" because it can possibly mean lack of belief in "not A" as well.
Quote:No belief in no God. This is a double negative and as a grammatical rule is a positive.
And so means belief in a God.
Where's the "double negative" here? Just because there are two "no's" in the same sentence doesn't mean the sentence contains a "double negative".
Quote:What is the purpose of argument for people here?
Are u looking to gain knowledge?
Are you looking to find common ground?
Are you looking to understand different perspectives?
Are you looking to impose ur ideology?
Are you looking to win the argument?
Why don't you answer these yourself first?
Wow, such anger for a position claiming to be a non belief.
I remind everyone that I actually accepted this a long time ago now and moved on but there is still discussion.
And now i know why... Im not the first to ask this.
To directly answer ur rather hostile question.
I don't understand how your definition is different to the definition of other atheists
And so I don't understand why some get all emotional when I call it a belief, claim or something when the definition is unclear within its own community.
Im finding this to be a major issue with atheism thayt has in fact been expressed by many. There is certainly a lot of discussion on these various definitions.
So the emotional use of foul language must be down to being asked this a lot. Not my fault.
This false position, view, non belief, ideology, doctrine or whatever term u wish to use, is explained very well in the following articles
https://www.bethinking.org/atheism/the-s...an-sceptic
https://www.catholic.com/magazine/online...-of-belief
This is the definition of a double negative.
"A double negative is a grammatical construction occurring when two forms of negation are used in the same sentence"
Twisting this definition needs to be done to fit the atheist agenda
U are so afraid of having ur world view shaken up u cannot even answer some simple questions.
I'll answer them then.
What is the purpose of argument for people here? To learn
Are u looking to gain knowledge? Yes
Are you looking to find common ground? Yes
Are you looking to understand different perspectives? Yes
Are you looking to impose ur ideology? No
Are you looking to win the argument? No
Hope that makes u guys feel better... As feelings seem to overwrite facts here