Quote:Wow, such anger for a position claiming to be a non belief.Or maybe it's you who keeps seeing anger that's not their as nothing in Grands response seems angry so seem remarkably hung up on other seeing anger in people .
Quote:I remind everyone that I actually accepted this a long time ago now and moved on but there is still discussion.And ?
Quote:To directly answer ur rather hostile question.There you go again nothing in his comment seems hostile
Quote:I don't understand how your definition is different to the definition of other atheistsBecause i imagine it isn't
Quote:And so I don't understand why some get all emotional when I call it a belief, claim or something when the definition is unclear within its own community.Simple it not unclear and being told it is frustrating
Quote:Im finding this to be a major issue with atheism thayt has in fact been expressed by many. There is certainly a lot of discussion on these various definitions.Two biased fundie websites with ironically hostile opinions of atheists not a great source
So the emotional use of foul language must be down to being asked this a lot. Not my fault.
This false position, view, non belief, ideology, doctrine or whatever term u wish to use, is explained very well in the following articles
https://www.bethinking.org/atheism/the-s...an-sceptic
https://www.catholic.com/magazine/online...-of-belief
Quote:This is the definition of a double negative.Having a fundie website reaffrim your assertion does you little good
"A double negative is a grammatical construction occurring when two forms of negation are used in the same sentence"
Quote:Twisting this definition needs to be done to fit the atheist agendaNope and even asserting an "agenda " says a great deal about you .
Quote:U are so afraid of having ur world view shaken up u cannot even answer some simple questions.Or he doesn't care about your questions
Quote:I'll answer them then.Good for you and why did anyone else need to do this ? and this was suppose unravel grands "supposed " "world view"
What is the purpose of argument for people here? To learn
Are u looking to gain knowledge? Yes
Are you looking to find common ground? Yes
Are you looking to understand different perspectives? Yes
Are you looking to impose ur ideology? No
Are you looking to win the argument? No
Quote:Hope that makes u guys feel better... As feelings seem to overwrite facts hereI honestly don't think he cares and need i point out all the above could reinforce the perceptions that it's you who is angry
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.
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