Is atheism a belief?

[GrandizerII]

Wow, such anger for a position claiming to be a non belief.

This is nothing compared to the anger and hostility I'm seeing from you.

I remind everyone that I actually accepted this a long time ago now and moved on but there is still discussion.

Bullshit. You didn't accept anything, else you wouldn't continue to contest the definition to this point.

And now i know why... Im not the first to ask this.

No, that's not why. It's only theists (and yourself) that have been arguing about such a simple definition of the term. Every atheist who has participated here seems to agree with the basic definition.

To directly answer ur rather hostile question.

Again, nothing compared to the hostility you've shown.

I don't understand how your definition is different to the definition of other atheists

It's not really that different. It's rephrased a little in order to account for "naturalistic" and metaphorical theism as well. But the core definition still remains simple: atheism is "not theism". This means if you don't believe in God (and you supposedly don't), then by the simple definition of the term "atheist", you are an atheist.

And so I don't understand why some get all emotional when I call it a belief, claim or something when the definition is unclear within its own community.

Well, I don't understand why you're getting all emotional about this when we keep trying to make it clear to you that atheism is simply a lack of belief in god(s). And this definition, AFAIK, is agreed upon by all the atheists here.

Im finding this to be a major issue with atheism thayt has in fact been expressed by many. There is certainly a lot of discussion on these various definitions.

Point me to one atheist who has participated in this thread that has argued against this basic definition of atheism.

So the emotional use of foul language must be down to being asked this a lot. Not my fault.

Except it has everything to do with your attitude here. Perhaps if you stopped acting like a dick, some of us would treat you with more respect. Keep in mind I was rather respectful to you at the start, but your continual smugness and projections of anger and hostility have made me not want to give you much respect.

This false position, view, non belief, ideology, doctrine or whatever term u wish to use, is explained very well in the following articles
https://www.bethinking.org/atheism/the-s...an-sceptic
https://www.catholic.com/magazine/online...-of-belief

Why is it you can't accept the basic definition of atheism but instead have to go to theistic sites to get the definition(s) you want? Are you really here to listen to what we have to say? Because your use of phrases like "false position" shows you're clearly not here to have a civil and fair discussion about these matters.

This is the definition of a double negative.
"A double negative is a grammatical construction occurring when two forms of negation are used in the same sentence"
Twisting this definition needs to be done to fit the atheist agenda

No twisting intended. Even if I grant that two forms of negation in the same sentence make for a double negative, it does not necessarily mean that these negations cancel each other. As someone else pointed out earlier, there's "double negative" in the grammatical sense ... and then there's "double negative" in the mathematical/logical sense. You're mixing up both senses of the phrase here, and thinking that because two minuses next to each other make a plus, that this must also unconditionally apply in grammar as well. That's a mistake that you've made here, and if you're really here to learn, you should avoid making that mistake again.

U are so afraid of having ur world view shaken up u cannot even answer some simple questions.

Yeah, I'm so scared, man. You got me.

I'll answer them then.

What is the purpose of argument for people here?         To learn
Are u looking to gain knowledge?                                 Yes
Are you looking to find common ground?                       Yes
Are you looking to understand different perspectives?     Yes
Are you looking to impose ur ideology?                         No
Are you looking to win the argument?                           No

I don't believe you (at this point). Why not? Because actions speak louder than words.

Hope that makes u guys feel better... As feelings seem to overwrite facts here

This attitude is why you won't get along with anyone here.