RE: Is atheism a belief?
December 13, 2018 at 10:12 am
(This post was last modified: December 13, 2018 at 10:26 am by Mister Agenda.)
(December 9, 2018 at 12:34 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:(December 9, 2018 at 12:20 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: Please describe the belief all atheists have in common.
Please sum up the atheist *ideology* all atheists have in common.
What doctrine do all atheists have in common?
What theory do all atheists have in common?
What system do all atheists in common?
Let me rephrase your questions, and maybe you'll see how they fail...
Please describe the belief all theists have in common.
Please sum up the theist *ideology* all theists have in common.
What doctrine do all theists have in common?
What theory do all theists have in common?
What system do all theists in common?
(December 9, 2018 at 12:29 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Atheism is a belief like baldness is a hair color.
Look up the definition of 'ism'...
Good insight, Huggy. Theism is also not a belief system. It is the opinion that some sort of divine being actually exists outside of our imaginations. An atheist is someone who does not share that opinion.
As for the definition of 'ism', the definition that applies in this case is 'a condition or state of being'. Albinism is the state of lacking melanin, atheism is the state of lacking theism.
(December 12, 2018 at 6:14 pm)Agnostico Wrote: "We don't believe there are any gods" but we also "don't believe there are no Gods". Then which God do u believe in? Very confused are these atheists. The determination to redefine a simple definition with false grammar is amazing. What is the motivation...
Do you think that if I told you that I don't believe there is an even number of pennies in my penny jar, I must believe that there is an odd number of pennies in my penny jar?
A belief is a proposition held to be true. I don't know whether there is an even or odd number of pennies in my jar, so I don't hold either to be true. I don't believe there is an even number, and I also don't believe that there is an odd number. I lack a belief about the evenness or oddness of the number of pennies in my jar.
I also lack a belief that a God or gods exist and I lack a belief that a God or gods don't exist. I don't know whether any exist (though certain proposed deities I can rule out for incoherence or contrary evidence) and I don't know that no deity at all exists. I am an agnostic atheist: I don't believe because I don't know.
I would not argue that an agnostic can't be a theist: they could believe in a deity while acknowledging that they have not way of knowing that their belief is true.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.