RE: Do u want there to be a God? Any God?
December 16, 2018 at 2:31 pm
(This post was last modified: December 16, 2018 at 2:35 pm by Simon Moon.)
(December 16, 2018 at 11:32 am)Agnostico Wrote:(December 16, 2018 at 9:54 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: So I could "want" for any sort of god I want then.
What are basically asking then if I could have anything I wanted would I have it?
This seems like a useless question to me and does nothing to address the real world.
Because there obviously isn't a god that makes all women find me sexually attractive and I certainly do not have unlimited stamina.
If you want to bring already imagined gods into it, then all the gods imagined by other people so far I would not like to be real. Particularly the abrahamic god who seems the ultimate dick.
"Do u believe or disbelieve ....." is a usless question in my opinion. So was mine but as I explained, it reflects a persons tolerance to uncomfortable truths.
You really are dense.
EVERYONE believes or disbelieves things, even you. Knowledge is a subset of belief.
All belief is, is accepting a proposition or premise as being true. That's it. One may have good reasons for their beliefs (accepting a proposition as being true), like; demonstrable evidence, and valid and sound logic, or they may have bad reasons, like; faith, old books, anecdotal evidence, feelings. But don't fool yourself, if you accept a premise of proposition as being true, you have beliefs.
If you are crossing a street, and you look both ways and see that no cars are coming and safe to cross, you BELIEVE it is safe to cross. You may also claim to KNOW it is safe to cross, but that is an additional claim on top of your beliefs. If you claim to know it is safe to cross the street, you also believe (accept as being true) it is safe to cross the street.
The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy is considered one of the most authoritative there is. Here's their extensive article on beliefs.
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/belief/
Quote:Yes by "any gods" i mean any gods. I picked the hindu god brahma and signed the dotted line for reincarnation into a Falcon. After that i might become a shark or somethin. Awesome.
The only type of god I wouldn't care if it existed or not, is a deist type of god. A god of first cause, so to speak. Any god that interacts with the natural universe, like any ot the theistic gods, I do not want to exist. That would mean that we live in a totalitarian universe, at the whims of a god. I despise "might makes right" human governments, I would also despise a universe governed the same way.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.