Morality

[Brian37]

I think I forgot to mention the topic of God is old to me and seems almost unrelated to morals.

Well like I postulated in the other post I think religions may have been created to form the foundation for morals in society. The need for a "sky god" theory falls apart for me with religions like Buddhism. Many of them don't worship any Gods. Also I can't imagine man having the time to ponder such a question which brings no immediate result to the difficult state of life at the time.

So the question to why are there always these religions puzzles me. Though I'm sure some here are quite comfortable in ignoring eastern religions to stick to their sky daddy desire complex

Our morals are based on self, here and now. They vary between people. If I polled a question, any question like abortion there will be different opinions. Which one is right? How do we know it's right? Right for who? Each person's opinion is made on their preferences. Cave man's preferences are based on instincts, on self preservation. I don't see much about morals in a societal context, always of self.

So although a person without religion can be a good person, a society needs to operate on one unified moral system which is built not for us, here and now but for future generations. Humans are very narcissistic. They believe they can control the weather, create a new universe and are all knowing.

I read that if a person doesn't have a religion then the text or entity which they value the highest will be their religion or God. This leads to a hostile and dogmatic defense of this God which mirrors theists defence of their doctrines. I find this so true which scares me cos I see what I was like wen I was an atheist/anti theist and I never want to be in that closed off mindset again.

I can get the 10 commandments and mirror many of them onto atheism.

This Gae Bolga guy for example looks only about 26-28yo, uses only agriculture to form theories while ignoring all the others factors. Yet refuses to enter a civilized discourse dismissing any argument as if he is this all knowing entity by which the laws of nature adhere to. To these types of snowflakes I say grow up. U are not unique. Ur thoughts are just that... Thoughts. Immature thoughts that will no doubt develop over time

Ignorance lead to superstition and religion and god claims. Our species socializing is evolutionary regardless. Humans 200,000 years ago simply made bad guesses, and that lead to the grouping today we call religion. 

Other species form groups as well, group socializing is not unique to humans.

Evolution leads many species to seek patterns and form groups. The problem with humans back in pre historic times is that we had no modern knowledge. So when something around us, like a volcano, or storm, or even migration of our prey, had a positive or negative effect on us, we made the gap answer projection of our own qualities in super natural form as having an effect on that which was affecting us.

"Anthropomorphism" is the term for that. Gap filling with false perceptions you can even see in your pets. A dog or cat can see it's reflection in the mirror and mistake it for a separate animal and react to it's own reflection. Even my cat still acts like it has claws, even though I have had it declawed, it still tries to scratch furniture in a futile attempt to sharpen claws it does not have. It is why birds and deer can mistake a really clean window as not being there at all and run into it. 

Religion is NOT the foundation of humanity anymore than Santa is the foundation of Christmas. Religion is certainly part of our species history yes. But the thing that causes our grouping itself is evolution, and that is far older than our species. You can be successful as a society but still base that on false claims. The ancient Egyptians were successful for over 3,000 years grouping around the very false perception that a God named Ra controlled the sun.