RE: Christianity compatible with atheism
October 1, 2011 at 2:44 am
(This post was last modified: October 1, 2011 at 2:53 am by coffeeveritas.)
(October 1, 2011 at 2:14 am)Minimalist Wrote:Quote:As in "Jesus was a great teacher of morals that we can live by, but there was nothing divine about him."
Really? What was so great about him?
Before you begin remember that the Golden Rule was a Greek thingy that was at least 6 centuries old by the time ole jesus came along....if he ever came along, that is.
I was just summarizing the views of enlightenment Christianity in order to ask a question in that particular quote. As far as why Jesus is great, I have a whole lot of reasons you wouldn't agree with, but I think it's fair to say that Jesus said and did some really decent and compassionate things. (and I'm sure you would add, "in the fictional stories written about him" )
(October 1, 2011 at 2:29 am)padraic Wrote:Quote:So in your view, there is no middle ground. We are merely two sides, locked forever in a violent conflict, our blood fated to overflow the streets. That's certainly one way of seeing it
Pardon?
That is not what I said or implied, any conflict I feel is ideological and philosophical, not violent
My view is that religion will eventually become irrelevant to all but a tint minority and fade away.That this process is well under way.That there is no need for violent conflict.
That there MUST always be conflict as the major agent of significant change is a major- minority view, called 'Conflict Theory'.
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Quote:Conflict theories are perspectives in social science which emphasize the social, political or material inequality of a social group, which critique the broad socio-political system, or which otherwise detract from structural functionalism and ideological conservativism. Conflict theories draw attention to power differentials, such as class conflict, and generally contrast historically dominant ideologies.
Certain conflict theories set out to highlight the ideological aspects inherent in traditional thought. Whilst many of these perspectives hold parallels,
conflict theory does not refer to a unified school of thought, and should not be confused with, for instance, peace and conflict studies, or any other specific theory of social conflict
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conflict_theory
I was totally joking about the conflict thing, as noted when I said, "I'm kidding of course," in the very next sentence after the one you quoted. I actually don't see any need for Christians and atheists to be in conflict at all, which is why I started this thread. (Humor is a bit hard to keep track of in a written medium, so I apologize if I was unclear.)
I was mostly interested in your reaction to the section immediately following the joke you quoted.
(I also don't see the religion disappearing anytime soon. The idea that the world would be secularized is a meta-narrative that most people discredit now-a-days.)