(December 18, 2018 at 2:44 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:(December 18, 2018 at 3:07 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: No. That's not what I meant to ask. No sense in blaming "the religious" when it was atheist extremists.
There is no such thing as an 'atheist extremist'.
How would that even work? "I really, REALLY disbelieve gods exist!".
It seems, everything you want to blame on 'atheist extremism; (Soviet totalitarianism, for example), actually had nothing to do with the disbelief in gods.
Soviet Communism was extremist, for sure. But its extremism was caused by bad dogma, not atheism. All they did was replace the bad dogma of an infallible god, with the bad dogma of an infallible State. Their problem wasn't that they were too skeptical or rational, their problem was they were way too close to being a religion. It is minds operating on the bad software (bad dogma) that causes extremism, not lack of belief in gods.
There is no line that can be drawn from, "I disbelieve in gods" to, "therefore I will become a mass murdering totalitarian dictator". This is disproved by the 2 facts, that there have been many theistic mass murdering dictators throughout history, and there have been atheist leaders who have not been mass murdering dictators.
All atheism is, no matter how hard you believe otherwise, is the disbelief in gods. Full stop.
All the other baggage you are trying to load onto atheism, is your own misconceptions.
Communism is your baby. Own it.
To form an atheist state, the progression is to go from democracy, to socialism, to communism, then us a communist state to cause disarray and destroy itself. That was Lenin's "end game" Because once it was destroyed, then the people would be able to rule themselves. Humanism/Atheism No "God" or "gods" with man creating his own path without anyone else determining it for him.
Given, most people aren't as fanatical about it today, but the ones who have been historically were extremists.
