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Anti Trans And Why It Fails
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RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails
(December 23, 2018 at 8:13 pm)Amarok Wrote: Me a persons who's job has lead them to help trans people get jobs  and homes  and deal with suicide as well as reunite families who have rejected their Trans members . Decides to write a thread attacking the ontological objections to transgender and does so accurately  and makes damn clear in their opening statement that this isn't exhaustive list of objections nor a refutation of political objections by the nature of the post. 


So... let's recap.

You have your little advocacy beliefs and want to pass a bunch of laws that clearly won't work any better than they ones we already have. More to the point, you work for for the very system that causes a suicide rate among the people you allegedly "help" to be 9X higher than the norm. 

You also think it's hateful for me to believe that a suicide rate of 9X the norm is too high. I'm an awful homophobe for thinking that maybe trans people ought to look for a better solution to their problems than the one that's led them to a suicide rate of 9X the norm. 

This is Darwinism in action...

(December 24, 2018 at 2:51 am)Amarok Wrote:
Quote:I've come out on the side that's saying the trans community needs to help it's own more and stop being perpetual victims.
Yes because victims should  not act like victims.... So your solution is just shifting the blame and shifting the responsibility and topping it of with vapid appeal to  "help it's own"  which honestly just sounds like  " I don't really care let them deal with it .

No, because people who are able to solve their own damn problems tend to be considerably less miserable in life.  You can solve your own problems. Why the hell do you think other people don't want to. Would you be happy in life if the only way you could get a job or a home would be to come beg me for help? Why should anyone be in that position? Why do you think anyone likes having to be in that position to begin with?


Quote:My ideology is that they work together to find solutions for themselves instead of attempting to pass more ineffective laws that have a history of not working. 
Or the laws could actually be made effective and we could ignore your vapid appeals to "Find solutions for themselves" which is just more shifting and more rhetoric ' and again sounds like " I don't really care let them deal with it "

Oh, the "We will do it better!" argument. Yeah.... that's worked out pretty well for just about no one ever. Maybe you should go to the inner city and ask some black people how "We'll do it better!" is working out. Visit N. Korea and see how well it "We'll do communism better!" is working out for them. 


Quote:How in the actual fuck is it hateful to say "What you've been doing clearly isn't working out very well and it might be a good idea to try something that has already proven to be effective."

Yet more vapid ideological appeals and sounds once more like " I don't really care let them deal with it " . As well as a apparent denial of the American rights contempt and open hostility to the Trans community that has nothing to do with laws .

No, I have every confidence that they can do a better job of helping themselves than you've done trying to solve all their problems for them.


Quote:You are a fucking moron!

Says the man who has done nothing for the trans community and offers nothing but  vapid ideological rhetoric  to the man who's been helping it for decades  and has helped fix the lives of many trans folk  .


So his whole comment is just empty political mental masturbation it probably makes him feel good but means nothing .

No, you're just a fucking moron.
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Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 9, 2018 at 2:41 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by onlinebiker - December 9, 2018 at 3:11 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 9, 2018 at 4:36 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by onlinebiker - December 9, 2018 at 5:28 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 9, 2018 at 12:29 pm
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 9, 2018 at 5:43 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by onlinebiker - December 9, 2018 at 5:47 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Mr.Obvious - December 9, 2018 at 5:19 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by I_am_not_mafia - December 9, 2018 at 5:50 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Maketakunai - December 9, 2018 at 6:25 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by I_am_not_mafia - December 9, 2018 at 6:50 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Maketakunai - December 9, 2018 at 7:55 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 9, 2018 at 1:29 pm
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 9, 2018 at 7:02 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by I_am_not_mafia - December 9, 2018 at 8:05 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by brewer - December 9, 2018 at 8:44 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Angrboda - December 9, 2018 at 11:28 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Maketakunai - December 10, 2018 at 1:51 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by onlinebiker - December 10, 2018 at 3:27 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 10, 2018 at 3:51 pm
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by no one - December 10, 2018 at 4:31 pm
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 10, 2018 at 5:02 pm
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Gwaithmir - December 11, 2018 at 11:28 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 11, 2018 at 11:52 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Rev. Rye - December 11, 2018 at 12:24 pm
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 11, 2018 at 12:46 pm
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Rev. Rye - December 11, 2018 at 1:17 pm
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 21, 2018 at 5:52 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Maketakunai - December 21, 2018 at 7:06 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 21, 2018 at 8:06 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Maketakunai - December 21, 2018 at 8:07 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 21, 2018 at 8:09 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Maketakunai - December 21, 2018 at 8:33 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Divinity - December 21, 2018 at 9:45 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 21, 2018 at 4:43 pm
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Maketakunai - December 22, 2018 at 3:28 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Divinity - December 22, 2018 at 9:57 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 27, 2018 at 6:27 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Jehanne - December 21, 2018 at 8:16 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 21, 2018 at 8:19 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Jehanne - December 21, 2018 at 8:21 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 21, 2018 at 8:23 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 21, 2018 at 8:35 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 22, 2018 at 4:00 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Maketakunai - December 22, 2018 at 6:44 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Jehanne - December 22, 2018 at 9:00 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 22, 2018 at 5:14 pm
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 22, 2018 at 7:07 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Jehanne - December 22, 2018 at 8:32 pm
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 22, 2018 at 9:45 pm
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Maketakunai - December 23, 2018 at 2:58 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Jehanne - December 23, 2018 at 10:09 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 23, 2018 at 4:41 pm
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 23, 2018 at 8:13 pm
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Jehanne - December 23, 2018 at 8:39 pm
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 23, 2018 at 8:42 pm
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Maketakunai - December 24, 2018 at 3:12 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Maketakunai - December 23, 2018 at 11:47 pm
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 24, 2018 at 2:51 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 24, 2018 at 4:04 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Maketakunai - December 24, 2018 at 4:24 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 24, 2018 at 4:54 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Maketakunai - December 24, 2018 at 5:31 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 24, 2018 at 5:55 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Maketakunai - December 24, 2018 at 7:06 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 24, 2018 at 7:20 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Maketakunai - December 24, 2018 at 7:52 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by LastPoet - December 25, 2018 at 6:26 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 25, 2018 at 6:30 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 24, 2018 at 8:16 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Jehanne - December 25, 2018 at 1:49 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 25, 2018 at 2:28 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Maketakunai - December 25, 2018 at 6:37 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Jehanne - December 25, 2018 at 6:52 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 25, 2018 at 6:04 pm
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 25, 2018 at 7:12 pm
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Amarok - December 24, 2018 at 8:45 pm
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by downbeatplumb - December 25, 2018 at 11:06 am
RE: Anti Trans And Why It Fails - by Nay_Sayer - December 25, 2018 at 5:46 pm

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