Anti Trans And Why It Fails

[Maketakunai]

That's an incredibly uninformed comment since the suicide rate for homosexuals is significantly lower than transgenders. I've already talked about how their networking has empowered them to deal with social issues. If it's not been working then you must believe they are just as stupid as everyone else who thinks a suicide 9X the normal rate is even remotely acceptablea

Actually it's not as networking is not is not the reason there rates are lower at least the argument that it did is inconclusive just as some claiming gay marriage laws helped suicide rates is not conclusive . Though I imagine both  helped .As for the me thinking suicides are acceptable I never said it was and indeed the system needs improvement .But platitudes about “empowerment “won't do it .

And empty promises that the system will be fixed to magically solve the problem by passing unenforceable laws because "It will be better this time" has never worked. 

The suicide rate for people with gender disorders (GD as a blanket term) in the US was much lower in the 1950's than it is now. For both sexes, it was only 4.5 suicides per 100,000. As is usual, the rate for boys was higher than that of girls, 6.5 vs. 2.6. During the '60s and ‘70s, GD suicides trended upward, reaching a peak in 1994 with a combined rate of 13.6. The overall trend declined slightly and then was more or less flat until 2011, when it began to climb again.

There have been TEMPORARY reductions in suicide rates among gays and transgenders both due to the passage of legislation, but it always climbs higher than the point at which it fell.

[b]Prove you've personally saved lives. You can't without violating ethical standards that ought to apply here. So claiming you have done so personally is beyond meaningless. [/b]

I know I have thus your statements about me are false 

My statement about you not being able to provide evidence that you have ever personally stopped someone from committing suicide is entirely accurate. I'm not saying you have or have not. I'm saying that claiming to when there is no way to prove it without violating the ethics of what you claim your job is is an empty, valueless claim and fails on every level to be a persuasive argument. 

Empowering people is stupid? When did I EVER say I was in a group called American Conservatism? Is making shit up about people really your best argument here?

You clearly say your a conservative and you use American conservative arguments on countless other threads and empowering is just another word for “not my problem “ While mine is society needs to change  not the trans people .

I realize you're stupid, so I'm working under the theory that you honestly don't know what the word empowerment means. I really want you to explain in painstaking detail why you don't believe that people ought to be able to solve their own problems. Please include why you believe transgenders are too stupid to figure out how to feed and clothe themselves without your little system. I really want you to be clear on these points.

If you want to learn a little about what empowerment actually is, educate yourself on the success of Black Wall Street. That is an amazing story of empowerment that resulted in one of the most shameful and tragic stories in American history simply because it all took place a good 50 years ahead of it's time.

If you want to learn what empowerment is educate yourself on minority banking systems like the Black Banks, or the money lending systems that Hindus, Koreans, and other immigrants have created to bypass the discrimination they believe exists in western corporate banks. 

If you want to learn about empowerment, educate yourself on the successes of schools that teach the disabled trades that allow them to be self-sufficient, or the rehabilitation programs by veterans groups to provide jobs and homes for veterans. 

Fuck, just educate yourself instead of being such an ignorant twat.

No. You are insisting that they rely on you and the system you are part of to solve all their problems for them, and they are killing themselves. You might as well be slashing their fucking wrists personally since you don't even accept the possibility that other methods might keep them from doing it themselves.

Nope I insist we fix the system instead of relying on your circumstantial evidence and empty platitudes and made up reasons that they are killing themselves which won't solve the problem .

So far the only fixes you have proposed to your Bureaucracy-O-Doom has been to make even more decisions for trans people because you don't think they can be trusted to make their own, and to more pass laws that will somehow magically work when they have never done so before.