RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 25, 2018 at 1:02 pm
(This post was last modified: December 25, 2018 at 1:38 pm by CDF47.)
Merry Christmas everyone!
The devil is the birth of evil. He wanted the Lord's throne.
He went to war with the Lord and His angels. That's how he rebelled.
Not in our space-time. They existed outside the boundaries of this universe before this universe was created in the third heaven. Our sky is the first heaven, the universe with the stars are the second heaven, heaven is the third heaven.
No Babylonian myth steals from reality. They even have a false trinity of Osiris, Isis, and Horus.
I provided evidence in the post above.
I covered the Book of Daniel already. He predicted three future kingdoms of the four kingdoms listed.
All wrong.
God is totally holy and just.
I linked a source {https://www.christianheadlines.com/columnists/guest-commentary/was-jesus-a-historical-figure.html}. I also provided one for Exodus.
(December 24, 2018 at 6:47 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote:(December 24, 2018 at 6:45 pm)CDF47 Wrote: His pride got in the way and he was able to gather up to 1/3 or so of the angels of heaven to rebel. There was a war in heaven and the Lord cast out the devil.
The devil's pride.... was big enough and powerful enough to defy your diety?
Again. I am asking you how did your devil rebel? Not what caused it to rebel. That your diety first made the devil adn then, some how, said devil was able to rebel against something that was Omnipotent etc?
Not at work.
The devil is the birth of evil. He wanted the Lord's throne.
He went to war with the Lord and His angels. That's how he rebelled.
(December 24, 2018 at 7:23 pm)pocaracas Wrote:(December 24, 2018 at 6:47 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: The devil's pride.... was big enough and powerful enough to defy your diety?
Again. I am asking you how did your devil rebel? Not what caused it to rebel. That your diety first made the devil adn then, some how, said devil was able to rebel against something that was Omnipotent etc?
Not at work.
Did all this happen "in time"?
Had god created spacetime for these angels to exist in a framework with time, so they could perform temporal actions such as rebelling and the like? Was this in parallel with the Universe unraveling?
Not in our space-time. They existed outside the boundaries of this universe before this universe was created in the third heaven. Our sky is the first heaven, the universe with the stars are the second heaven, heaven is the third heaven.
(December 24, 2018 at 7:35 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: Do the cherubim really sit on chairs ?
We know where "angels" came from.
Micha-el
Rapha-el
Uri-el
Ari-el
Messengers of the Babylonian gods --- EL
Straight out of Babylonian mythology.
No Babylonian myth steals from reality. They even have a false trinity of Osiris, Isis, and Horus.
(December 24, 2018 at 7:42 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/dail...r-fiction/(December 24, 2018 at 5:43 pm)CDF47 Wrote:(December 24, 2018 at 5:24 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: I do not not believe in god because of Darwin or evolution. I don't believe because I find it stupid.
All the science does is show I'm right.
And lets remember that before Darwin or the big bang theory or any of the other myriad things that show that god didn't do what god had always been assumed to have done and that the earth is not the age the bible said it was and that the exodus never happened etc. Even before all that, there were people who did not believe. And I think that the reason they didn't believe was because its obviously a bloody silly idea with nothing really going for it.
I don't just not believe in god, I find it a laughable idea.(December 24, 2018 at 5:43 pm)CDF47 Wrote: It's true and the exodus did happen.
Quote:Despite being regarded in Judaism as the primary factual historical narrative of the origin of the religion, culture and ethnicity, Exodus is now accepted by scholars as having been compiled in the 8th–7th centuries BCE from stories dating possibly as far back as the 13th century BCE, with further polishing in the 6th–5th centuries BCE, as a theological and political manifesto to unite the Israelites in the then‐current battle for territory against Egypt.[3]
Archaeologists from the 19th century onward were actually surprised not to find any evidence whatsoever for the events of Exodus. By the 1970s, archaeologists had largely given up regarding the Bible as any use at all as a field guide.
The archaeological evidence of local Canaanite, rather than Egyptian, origins of the kingdoms of Judah and Israel is "overwhelming," and leaves "no room for an Exodus from Egypt or a 40‐year pilgrimage through the Sinai wilderness."[4] The culture of the earliest Israelite settlements is Canaanite, their cult objects are of the Canaanite god El, the pottery is in the local Canaanite tradition, and the alphabet is early Canaanite. Almost the sole marker distinguishing Israelite villages from Canaanite sites is an absence of pig bones.
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Evidence_for_the_Exodus
(December 24, 2018 at 7:51 pm)Gwaithmir Wrote:(December 24, 2018 at 5:43 pm)CDF47 Wrote: There is plenty of historical evidence of Christ and other Biblical stories.Yet another worthless claim for which you can provide not a single shred of credible evidence.
We're still waiting for you to corroborate even one alleged prophecy from the Book of Daniel.
I provided evidence in the post above.
I covered the Book of Daniel already. He predicted three future kingdoms of the four kingdoms listed.
(December 24, 2018 at 8:14 pm)Amarok Wrote:Quote:I provided accurate stats a number of times in this thread.You provided doo doo
Quote: Darwin is heavily followed in the scientific communityDarwin isn't followed by anyone evolution is accepted because it's true
Quote:despite the gaping holes in his theory related to macro-evolution and common ancestry and the lack of originsThere are no significant gaps and macro evolution despite your compartmentalization is a fact of biology and the origins of life don't concern evolution and we are working on it nor is it a challenge to the theory
Quote:We didn't fail at anything.You failed at everything
All wrong.
(December 25, 2018 at 3:23 am)Deesse23 Wrote:Quote:The devil is not nearly as strong as the Lord. He is nothing more than an ant in strength compared to God's strength.
His pride got in the way and he was able to gather up to 1/3 or so of the angels of heaven to rebel.
Weak as an ant but manages to gather a significant portion of gods minions around him, in the presence of the most powerful entity.ever? Impressive! I guess this devil-guy has a lot of charm and charisma. Please, tell me more about him and his ideas.
How again do you know the devil is the evil one and god the good one?
God is totally holy and just.
(December 25, 2018 at 5:05 am)Nomad Wrote:Cdf47 Wrote:There is plenty of historical evidence of Christ and other Biblical stories
Point us in the direction of some then. Because all I've seen has been, like the Testamonium Flavorum and Tacitus, either forgeries or late period insertions.
Also the bible doesn't count, it is the claim, not evidence.
I linked a source {https://www.christianheadlines.com/columnists/guest-commentary/was-jesus-a-historical-figure.html}. I also provided one for Exodus.
The LORD Exists: http://www.godandscience.org/
Intelligent Design (Short Video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVkdQhNdzHU
Intelligent Design (Longer Video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzj8iXiVDT8
Intelligent Design (Short Video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVkdQhNdzHU
Intelligent Design (Longer Video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzj8iXiVDT8