(December 24, 2018 at 5:54 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(December 24, 2018 at 8:29 am)Gwaithmir Wrote: And why was this phenomenon not observed by thousands or people in your area and why was it not mentioned in the news media?

Not sure.

It didn't happen?

(December 24, 2018 at 5:54 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote:

(December 24, 2018 at 5:43 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I'm not talking about anything 'Prophetic'.

I'm pointing out that your 'Three Onmi' deity created everything.

One of its creations was another entity which had the capacity to succesfully rebel against said omnipotence etc.

Think about that.

If your diety is the absolute 'Top of the heap' then how could anything possibly equal it?

How could anything else be strong enough to ignore your diety's dictates?

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The devil is not nearly as strong as the Lord.  He is nothing more than an ant in strength compared to God's strength.

 Okay... if the Devil is so weak... How did it rebel?

Not at work.

His pride got in the way and he was able to gather up to 1/3 or so of the angels of heaven to rebel.  There was a war in heaven and the Lord cast out the devil.

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(December 24, 2018 at 6:22 pm)IWNKYAAIMI Wrote:

(December 24, 2018 at 5:54 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Not sure.

It didn't happen?

It sure did.  I never seen anything like it in 39 years.

(December 24, 2018 at 6:45 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(December 24, 2018 at 5:54 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote:  Okay... if the Devil is so weak... How did it rebel?

Not at work.

His pride got in the way and he was able to gather up to 1/3 or so of the angels of heaven to rebel.  There was a war in heaven and the Lord cast out the devil.

 The devil's pride.... was big enough and powerful enough to defy your diety?

Again. I am asking you how did your devil rebel? Not what caused it to rebel. That your diety first made the devil adn then, some how, said devil was able to rebel against something that was Omnipotent etc?

Not at work.

Quote:It's true and the exodus did happen.

Making assertions does not make them true. 

The fact is, Egypt controlled the ancient Near East, including Canaan ... it would have been stupid to go from Egypt to another place they controlled if they wanted to escape them. 
It never happened. Egypt had garrisons stationed in Canaan, and they reported regularly ... they said nothing about it.
Too bad ... never happened.

(December 24, 2018 at 6:47 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote:

(December 24, 2018 at 6:45 pm)CDF47 Wrote: His pride got in the way and he was able to gather up to 1/3 or so of the angels of heaven to rebel.  There was a war in heaven and the Lord cast out the devil.

 The devil's pride.... was big enough and powerful enough to defy your diety?

Again. I am asking you how did your devil rebel? Not what caused it to rebel. That your diety first made the devil adn then, some how, said devil was able to rebel against something that was Omnipotent etc?

Not at work.

Did all this happen "in time"?
Had god created spacetime for these angels to exist in a framework with time, so they could perform temporal actions such as rebelling and the like? Was this in parallel with the Universe unraveling?

Do the cherubim really sit on chairs ?

We know where "angels" came from.
Micha-el
Rapha-el
Uri-el
Ari-el

Messengers of the Babylonian gods --- EL
Straight out of Babylonian mythology.

(December 24, 2018 at 5:43 pm)CDF47 Wrote: [quote='downbeatplumb' pid='1871683' dateline='1545643461']

I do not not believe in god because of Darwin or evolution. I don't believe because I find it stupid.
All the science does is show I'm right.

And lets remember that before Darwin or the big bang theory or any of the other myriad things that show that god didn't do what god had always been assumed to have done and that the earth is not the age the bible said it was and that the exodus never happened etc. Even before all that, there were people who did not believe. And I think that the reason they didn't believe was because its obviously a bloody silly idea with nothing really going for it.

I don't just not believe in god, I find it a laughable idea.

(December 24, 2018 at 5:43 pm)CDF47 Wrote: It's true and the exodus did happen.

Quote:Despite being regarded in Judaism as the primary factual historical narrative of the origin of the religion, culture and ethnicity, Exodus is now accepted by scholars as having been compiled in the 8th–7th centuries BCE from stories dating possibly as far back as the 13th century BCE, with further polishing in the 6th–5th centuries BCE, as a theological and political manifesto to unite the Israelites in the then‐current battle for territory against Egypt.[3]
Archaeologists from the 19th century onward were actually surprised not to find any evidence whatsoever for the events of Exodus. By the 1970s, archaeologists had largely given up regarding the Bible as any use at all as a field guide.
The archaeological evidence of local Canaanite, rather than Egyptian, origins of the kingdoms of Judah and Israel is "overwhelming," and leaves "no room for an Exodus from Egypt or a 40‐year pilgrimage through the Sinai wilderness."[4] The culture of the earliest Israelite settlements is Canaanite, their cult objects are of the Canaanite god El, the pottery is in the local Canaanite tradition, and the alphabet is early Canaanite. Almost the sole marker distinguishing Israelite villages from Canaanite sites is an absence of pig bones.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Evidence_for_the_Exodus

(December 24, 2018 at 5:43 pm)CDF47 Wrote: There is plenty of historical evidence of Christ and other Biblical stories.

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Yet another worthless claim for which you can provide not a single shred of credible evidence.

We're still waiting for you to corroborate even one alleged prophecy from the Book of Daniel.

(December 24, 2018 at 7:35 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: Do the cherubim really sit on chairs ?

We know where "angels" came from.
Micha-el
Rapha-el
Uri-el
Ari-el

Messengers of the Babylonian gods --- EL
Straight out of Babylonian mythology.

El-ohim.  It's the name associated with God as being the Creator.

Sometimes you can have something similar in multiple cultures and it means the same thing to them respectively.

Anyway, Merry Christmas. 

(December 24, 2018 at 5:54 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(December 24, 2018 at 8:29 am)Gwaithmir Wrote: And why was this phenomenon not observed by thousands or people in your area and why was it not mentioned in the news media?

Not sure.  It was pretty cool.

Yeah, and I'm King Isildur.