(January 4, 2019 at 12:03 pm)wyzas Wrote:Very well might be. It's a self-contradictory group. On the Tuesday night groups, they use secular plans (at least the stress/anger group did). the lessons dealt with cognitive development/training and they were good for what we were doing. Pretty much how to retrain the brain, how to find healthy outlets, finding triggers, going over consequences if stress and/or gets out of control. But the Friday 12 step groups (because you can attend specific groups without committing to the 12 month program) teach that "No good dwells within us," and our lives cannot be changed by us but by prayer and giving it up to God. Along with that, you're told that by a specific step if you haven't converted to Christianity the program won't work. That's where I became disillusioned and began to develop more secular beliefs (already held them). It's a racket because all of the Judges in our county require, AA, NA, or Celebrate Recovery. The juvenile probation department now requires all juvenile offenders to attend CR meetings as well. But the reason I'm questioning some my beliefs is because of a conversation with my dad, he stated one day: If you don't believe central tenets of any given religion, then why believe? it's dishonest to yourself and to those who do believe them. I've always held that in my early twenties and now that I have children, after taking them to Sunday school a few times, and attending the Celebrate Recovery meetings, I've started asking myself "Am I truly being honest with myself and my little girls?" It is a small world that your sister lived here, I hope she enjoyed her time here.(January 4, 2019 at 11:51 am)alw0992 Wrote: Understandable. Closest SMART recovery group is about an hour away for me. Celebrate Recovery is extremely cult like, which didn't shock me but the way the Granbury branch is ran is quite alarming. Good and loving people who are ready to help, but everyone wear CR shirts and always says "CR saved me," or "I owe my life to CR."
My sister used to live in Granbury (Shell Oil employment), small world. Trust me, I live and interact with the "god did it" people on a daily basis. I just smile. If that's what they need to get thru life then it's OK by me. I know they don't really want to hear what's in my head.
The hour commute might be worth it.
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