(January 4, 2019 at 3:45 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:(January 4, 2019 at 7:52 am)pocaracas Wrote: Good, good!
No batteries included!
So.... are you saying that you were already christian?
I grew up with little religion in my life.
What little I got came from my grandmother, on the few occasions that I was with her.
No one else said anything otherwise, so I assumed that to be true and generally accepted... then things started not making sense for religion and, for a while, I actually thought I was the only non-believer in the world.
Nowadays, my outlook on life is that it's worth living. It's full of beautiful things to be enjoyed and appreciated... no one seems to be enjoying anything after dying, nor before living, so this is my one chance at it and I want to make the most of it.
No I wasn't already a Christian.
Which makes me wonder... How did you identify yourself, in the religiosity/spirituality spectrum?
(January 4, 2019 at 3:45 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: You have a similar outlook on life as I do. There is beauty everywhere.
Well.... not entirely everywhere. There's plenty of crap in this world that I'd rather wasn't there.
(January 4, 2019 at 3:45 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Our big difference seems to be that what you see as an end, I see as a gateway to the next great adventure.
I have no reason to think there is any adventure beyond that gate.
Believe me, I would love to know that there was such an adventure. But I don't. And I don't see how anyone on this Earth can know about it. That makes your point of view little more than wishful thinking, don't you think?
(January 4, 2019 at 3:45 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: As a Christian, that in a lot of ways is how we understand Jesus. He came here, went through extreme circumstances like we often do, got chased, beaten, mocked, and eventually died. And in all of it, it wasn't a loss, but the winning move.
It's amazing how getting chased, beaten, mocked and killed became something to aspire to.
Suffering is to be avoided, in my opinion. And, if I can, I'll try to avoid it befalling upon others.
But Jesus, according to the story, didn't stay dead for long. He respawned and immediately obtained the cheat code for god-mode and then, instead of sticking around, guiding humanity so that no more idiocy would come to pass, he buggered off, flew off... then, 600 years later, Mohamed came and idiocy followed... and he too flew off... Myths tend to repeat certain themes, you see? It's a way to keep the hero "alive", when he's not really around.
In Christianity, some spirituality, some guidance is totally valid and it's been found to help in putting minds at ease. But that doesn't mean that the whole story is true. Nor that the "magical" (or, if you prefer, miraculous) bits are true.