RE: Is atheism a belief?
January 5, 2019 at 5:16 am
(This post was last modified: January 5, 2019 at 5:18 am by T0 Th3 M4X.)
(January 5, 2019 at 4:53 am)Grandizer Wrote:(January 5, 2019 at 4:47 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Better than your claims of nothing exploding into the universe or living stuff coming from dead stuff.
Who said that "nothing exploded into the universe"? Or is this a strawman you keep erecting?
And what's the logical problem with living stuff arising from nonliving stuff? It's not a problem under naturalism because life isn't some supernatural entity that needs to be breathed into beings in order for them to then live ... Also, nonliving is not equivalent to dead, so please avoid this equivocating next time.
Better question. Who said there was a "magic sky fairy?"
I'm not a proponent of naturalism, and it's not realistic to accommodate everybody's version of it. If saying "dead" bothers you, then I'll keep that in mind when addressing you.
(January 5, 2019 at 5:05 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: At work.
(January 5, 2019 at 4:47 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: I stated it.
Better than your claims of nothing exploding into the universe or living stuff coming from dead stuff.
Keep hearing "it happened", so I ask for proof or even how you know. I get a bunch of excuses. One fail, the next lemming pulls the same excuses.
Yes M4X, we know you keep stating it. Which is why we are explaining our veiws/meanings/etc back to you.
I, for one, am not saying our reality simply popped into being from nothing.
As for the evidence of what tuose who've spent their entire lives studying?
As we look out into the space around us we are, due to fixed upper speed at which a photon can travel, are also effectivly looking backwards in time.
I know it's a trippy thing to get your head around but... that's pretty much what it is.
So... the take away from this is that, eventually, no matter which way we look. 'Up' from the North Pole or 'Down' from the South Pole. We see back to about 13 billion years ago/away and in every direction we see the same glow.
If we listen with radio, not relying of fragile photons to carry their essence, we hear the same constant hiss permiating reality.
Thats the 'Evidence'. We look out and 'Back' untill we come to a point/place beyond which? We do not know.
But lots of very clever people are thinking about such things and trying to figure out ways to learn more about such things so that we know more and can maybe work out beyond/before that.
Hence why the actuall detection of 'Gravity waves' is such a big deal. As we get better at detecting them and mapping them then, potentially, we can see beyond the points at which our other systems fail.
Cheers.
At work.
(January 5, 2019 at 4:55 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: It's not even that. You want to cherry pick definitions. If we can't agree on how something is defined, then there's no way to go from A to B, so no point in going round-n-round. Yet you're insistent that we should. Sorry, but no thanks.
No M4X, I don't.
I want to agree on a mutual understanding. I want to have my thoughts meet your thoughts 'Half way', as it were.
Pointing to how Sargent Fnerd dictates that the word 'Wednesday' MUST be used gets us no closer to understanding the meaning.of the word that is wednesday.
Cool. How about you propose a definition then and we can go from there?
