Illegal Immigration

[Amarok]

 Often the two go hand in hand 

And it's very rarely  wrong 

That's good 


  And it's very rarely  wrong 



Or what they are doing 


A country is not a house 



A country is not a house and it's none of my business 


Comparing imperialist colonization to what's going on at the US Mexican border is absurd

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And ?


That's nice 



The assumption here is a nation is defined by border control 

Better they are here then were they came from and it's not about us .

Ok.  Let me get this straight.  If you believe in controlling entry through the borders that means that you are against immigration and you're a racist to boot. A house is different than a country, so there is no need to verify whether or not a person is a terrorist, drug smuggler, human trafficker, felon, etc. before allowing them into the country. It's really not our business anyway.  Plus they cause no danger to us because they are not imperialist colonizers.  And finally, it's all about them and not about us.  Phooey!

You need to seriously need to stop spinning straw 

1. I never said they were racist . But all to often racist use this stuff as an excuse.

2.Again you read way to much into my comments . I never said that we don't need to affirm people at least internally for criminal acts wen they commit them . I did object to going about it the way you would letting someone into a house as it's a dumb comparison . And by the way we don't need a closed or regulated border to deal with any of the things you mentioned this runs into the fallacy of equaling law enforcement with the border they can be two different things . 

3.Pointing out your analogy of comparing colonialism which was an intentional act of government entity to  Mexican immigration in no way affirms what you are accusing me of .

4. And yes letting in refugees shouldn't be based on what they do for us . It's enough that we do the right thing .

When you through reading into my comment rather then reading them let me know .

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Despite all that has been said, the question remains "should we control immigration into the US"? 

No 

If so, we need to have effective laws, systems and enforcement. 

Considering that that illegal immigration is a fifth of what it was in 2000 I would have to disagree 

Our current system is obviously ineffective. 

See above 

It's not California's job to enforce the borders, but it also neglecting the well-being of it's citizens by protecting known criminals simply because they are undocumented immigrants, especially when they don't do the same for documented immigrants and citizens. 

Yeah no 

In many cases, if the Feds are after a known criminal who is a citizen, California will co-operate, but if the criminal is undocumented they will not. 

Yeah no 

Sanctuary cities do not protect criminal citizens - only undocumented criminals.  Whatever the crime rate is for immigrants, we need to know who is crossing our borders folks.

Nope it can be dealt with away from the border