(January 8, 2019 at 11:45 pm)bennyboy Wrote:(January 8, 2019 at 11:30 am)Amarok Wrote: Nope laws that are irrational and cruel should be ignoredWhat's cruel about not opening doors? If a homeless man knocks on my door, do I have a moral obligation to invite him in, feed him, and let him take space on my property?
The question is simple-- does the US have enough people, or would it like to have more people? I think it has enough people. Therefore, it should invite those who fill roles which are under-represented.
China has far more citizens than we do. And try escaping from North Korea into China. China treats "illegals" far worse than we do. I don't think China is a good example of valuing human rights. I don't want America to emulate their laws.
This is an over simplification of human behavior. In an ideal world sure, we want people to wait in line and wait their turn. But in reality, desperate and innocent people migrate to where they think they will have a better opportunity to survive.
You cannot treat national boarders like your personal house. In reality humans migrate to survive. It is inhumane to slam that door shut at all costs and never open it up. If you were one of the Jews on the boat we turned away in WW2 sent back to Europe, whom ended up in concentration camps, I doubt you'd say there is nothing wrong with closed doors.
Nobody is expecting you to literally invite someone into your personal house. But a nation is a construct, an ideal, not a physical thing. And the idea in America is we welcome diversity, we welcome the downtrodden, the oppressed to give them the opportunity to have a better life.
"Bring me your tired huddled masses"..... Humn, I do remember reading that somewhere.
I have no obligation to be forced to let others live in my personal physical house, no. But I do have a moral obligation to my fellow humans to know the difference between violent individuals, and innocent humans merely wanting to come here to survive.
None of what I typed is saying never deport. I am saying how we deal with our fellow humans, letting them stay or go, has to be an individual case by case issue, not an all or nothing solution.
I'd rather default to protecting innocent non violent humans, than to risk deporting those same non violent individuals back to where they could starve or die from crime or war. Immigration laws without compassion are not laws, but merely based on fear and tribalism.
