(January 10, 2019 at 12:36 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:(January 10, 2019 at 11:26 am)Brian37 Wrote: There are plenty of theists throughout history I find to be heros to humanity. Humans who display compassion and empathy for others. Martian Luther King Jr, Ann Frank and Malala would be great examples. But, I do not agree that their actions, that serve as a good example for humanity, are coming from a divine source from above.
Humans do not have to, as you put it "make believe" that good is some super natural outside source. Our behaviors are not a product of the divine world, but have always been in us. It is still up to our species how we interact with each other.
So you are the determining factor?
What the f? Where did I claim I was the center of the universe?
No, what is going on with you, is that you are simply not used to people challenging your claims. Saying "that was then, this is now" is all I am doing. I am sorry someone sold you old mythology, but again, that is your baggage not mine.
How much time have you taken to "determine" that Apollo is not real? How much time have you taken to "determine" that Thor is not real?
There ARE good humans worldwide of every religion. I only dispute where humans think our ability to do good and be good is coming from.
Someone sold you the idea that you needed a super cognition with super powers to manipulate life an the universe. I don't think you need that bad claim. I think humans are doing it, and humans are all we have, if we want to solve the problems of the world, and reduce conflict.
The only difference between you and I is that I reject one more god claim than you do. Understand why you rightfully reject all other god claims, besides the one you hold, then you should quite easily understand why I reject yours as well.
It should not frighten you one bit that this is it, and no super hero is helping humans.
