(January 12, 2019 at 3:56 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:(January 12, 2019 at 3:43 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Lady, you are correct. I have been at this with countless theists since 01. I have no desire to wade down a Yellow Brick Road. Not, just with Christians, but anyone including, Muslims or Jews or Hindus or Buddhists. They may be the nicest people in the world outside the subject of religion. But once you accept the age of our species, our planet, our universe, it is hard to swallow old mythology of any kind.
It frightens most humans to think of themselves as finite. It shouldn't, but it does. I can value human rights, but I don't think any human should fear the consideration that what they once thought was fact was mere myth. If our species never questioned social norms, our species never would have left the caves.
Thomas Jefferson was a deist, whom wrote his own bible stripping it of all the fantastic claims. But, even with him, I would have argued, why the need for even that? And this is a guy who said, "Question with boldness even the existence of a god, for if there be one, surely he would pay more homage to reason, than to that of blindfolded fear."
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How can you be rational when it's all about you? If you are always the source, then your own bias will limit your ability to be rational. You gotta look inward and outward so as to interpret the whole picture. If something is rational, equally so it should be reflected inward and outward.
It isn't all about me. The universe was around long before humans, so please do yourself a favor, stop repeating this crappy argument.
You are getting upset because someone told you our species isn't the center of the universe. Well guess what, Santa was a story your parents sold you.
It isn't going to kill you to accept you are finite. You can still live a good life, be non violent, value human rights, without assigning it to magic.
