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Illegal Immigration
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RE: Illegal Immigration
(January 11, 2019 at 1:02 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:
(January 8, 2019 at 11:45 pm)bennyboy Wrote: The question is simple-- does the US have enough people, or would it like to have more people?  I think it has enough people.  Therefore, it should invite those who fill roles which are under-represented.

We are a vast country with a low average population density. With its aging population and reproduction below replacement, the USA absolutely needs more people to sustain its long-term tax base and labor needs. The Hispanic immigrants we allow in now will produce the generation that we need to be in place when all the Baby Boomers are over 70.

(January 8, 2019 at 11:46 pm)bennyboy Wrote: There are many unemployed people, and yet most of them don't want these jobs.  Are they lazy?

You can offer $20 an hour to be a ranch hand or $12 to pick watermelons, and still won't be able to meet your labor needs if you exclude migrants. There just aren't enough non-Hispanic American citizens familiar enough with that kind of work and able to perform the heavy labor involved to meet the needs of farmers. When you do get a non-Hispanic citizen for the job, most of the time they can't do it well enough to justify paying them even $10 an your.

Peach-picking in Georgia typically pays $12 an hour. When they clamped down on illegal immigrants, the peaches were rotting off the trees, because they couldn't get enough workers to bring in the harvest. This kind of crop loss associated with 'getting tough on illegals' has been repeated multiple times.

If the laws on the books require us to shoot ourselves in the foot, maybe they're bad laws. And if we can't change them through normal processes, maybe they're being kept the way they are for irrational reasons, like nativism.

Bolded - I still struggle with quotes and replies here...

What you say sounds as though you think there should be immigration regardless of the intention to work toward citizenship because the US needs breeding stock.
I'm your huckleberry.
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Illegal Immigration - by Lek - January 4, 2019 at 1:51 pm
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RE: Illegal Immigration - by brewer - January 4, 2019 at 4:38 pm
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RE: Illegal Immigration - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 4, 2019 at 5:08 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Lek - January 4, 2019 at 5:32 pm
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RE: Illegal Immigration - by Lek - January 4, 2019 at 6:28 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 4, 2019 at 7:37 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Lek - January 4, 2019 at 8:21 pm
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RE: Illegal Immigration - by Fake Messiah - January 5, 2019 at 12:55 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Mister Agenda - January 5, 2019 at 9:40 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Losty - January 10, 2019 at 2:26 am
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RE: Illegal Immigration - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 10, 2019 at 2:04 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Brian37 - January 10, 2019 at 2:22 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Mister Agenda - January 5, 2019 at 9:31 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Fireball - January 5, 2019 at 11:02 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Drich - February 12, 2019 at 4:24 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by The Grand Nudger - January 5, 2019 at 2:43 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by vulcanlogician - January 5, 2019 at 11:59 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Cecelia - January 5, 2019 at 9:39 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Jackalope - January 5, 2019 at 11:47 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Mister Agenda - January 7, 2019 at 10:26 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Lek - January 5, 2019 at 2:21 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Jane2d - January 5, 2019 at 2:35 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Pat Mustard - January 5, 2019 at 7:43 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 5, 2019 at 2:42 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Mermaid - January 5, 2019 at 2:49 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Lek - January 5, 2019 at 5:00 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Mermaid - January 5, 2019 at 5:21 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 5, 2019 at 6:19 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Lek - January 5, 2019 at 9:49 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Amarok - January 6, 2019 at 9:53 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Brian37 - January 6, 2019 at 10:18 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Amarok - January 6, 2019 at 10:30 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Lek - January 6, 2019 at 6:33 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Amarok - January 7, 2019 at 3:46 pm
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RE: Illegal Immigration - by Amarok - January 6, 2019 at 11:49 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Natachan - January 6, 2019 at 11:47 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Brian37 - January 7, 2019 at 9:15 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Aoi Magi - January 6, 2019 at 1:31 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by LadyForCamus - January 6, 2019 at 7:34 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Mermaid - January 6, 2019 at 8:25 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 7, 2019 at 7:26 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Natachan - January 7, 2019 at 10:24 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Angrboda - January 7, 2019 at 11:42 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by tackattack - January 7, 2019 at 12:10 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Lek - January 7, 2019 at 1:37 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 7, 2019 at 1:43 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by LadyForCamus - January 7, 2019 at 10:30 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Brian37 - January 7, 2019 at 4:59 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Natachan - January 7, 2019 at 2:16 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Jane2d - January 8, 2019 at 12:13 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Angrboda - January 8, 2019 at 12:41 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Pat Mustard - January 8, 2019 at 3:51 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by bennyboy - January 8, 2019 at 11:46 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 8, 2019 at 9:22 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Amarok - January 8, 2019 at 9:25 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by bennyboy - January 8, 2019 at 9:46 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 8, 2019 at 9:57 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by onlinebiker - January 8, 2019 at 10:17 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Amarok - January 8, 2019 at 11:30 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Brian37 - January 8, 2019 at 5:44 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by bennyboy - January 8, 2019 at 11:45 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Brian37 - January 10, 2019 at 12:19 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Mister Agenda - January 11, 2019 at 1:02 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by arewethereyet - January 13, 2019 at 11:31 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Yonadav - January 13, 2019 at 11:54 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by arewethereyet - January 13, 2019 at 1:15 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Yonadav - January 13, 2019 at 1:17 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Mister Agenda - January 14, 2019 at 3:51 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 8, 2019 at 9:54 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Dmitry1983 - January 8, 2019 at 11:10 am
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RE: Illegal Immigration - by onlinebiker - January 8, 2019 at 4:11 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Amarok - January 8, 2019 at 5:26 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 8, 2019 at 4:24 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by onlinebiker - January 8, 2019 at 5:24 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 8, 2019 at 5:30 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by onlinebiker - January 8, 2019 at 11:36 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Jane2d - January 8, 2019 at 10:08 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by SteelCurtain - January 8, 2019 at 11:45 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by SteelCurtain - January 9, 2019 at 8:56 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by The Grand Nudger - January 10, 2019 at 2:51 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Pat Mustard - January 11, 2019 at 7:49 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Brian37 - January 11, 2019 at 8:41 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Yonadav - January 12, 2019 at 7:06 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Jane2d - January 12, 2019 at 11:59 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by SteelCurtain - January 12, 2019 at 1:32 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Jane2d - January 13, 2019 at 11:17 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Yonadav - January 13, 2019 at 11:30 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Mister Agenda - January 16, 2019 at 10:13 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by camoman - January 13, 2019 at 1:33 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 13, 2019 at 1:58 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Cecelia - January 14, 2019 at 1:59 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Yonadav - January 13, 2019 at 2:14 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by FlyingNarwhal - January 13, 2019 at 3:35 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Yonadav - January 13, 2019 at 4:33 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by FlyingNarwhal - January 14, 2019 at 10:49 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Yonadav - January 14, 2019 at 11:43 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by FlyingNarwhal - January 14, 2019 at 12:39 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by LadyForCamus - January 14, 2019 at 5:20 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Yonadav - January 14, 2019 at 5:47 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Angrboda - January 15, 2019 at 10:52 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Yonadav - January 15, 2019 at 11:10 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Pat Mustard - January 14, 2019 at 7:00 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 14, 2019 at 3:43 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Brian37 - January 14, 2019 at 3:53 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 14, 2019 at 3:56 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Brian37 - January 14, 2019 at 4:17 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 14, 2019 at 6:19 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Brian37 - January 16, 2019 at 7:21 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by downbeatplumb - January 19, 2019 at 12:26 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Yonadav - January 19, 2019 at 12:54 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Amarok - January 19, 2019 at 12:57 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Yonadav - January 19, 2019 at 1:09 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Amarok - January 19, 2019 at 1:11 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Brian37 - January 25, 2019 at 11:14 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Pat Mustard - January 26, 2019 at 9:04 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by FlyingNarwhal - January 15, 2019 at 9:52 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Divinity - January 15, 2019 at 10:16 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Amarok - January 17, 2019 at 5:28 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by The Grand Nudger - January 17, 2019 at 6:32 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Yonadav - January 17, 2019 at 10:32 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Amarok - January 18, 2019 at 12:55 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Jane2d - January 25, 2019 at 11:06 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by LadyForCamus - January 25, 2019 at 11:10 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by The Grand Nudger - January 25, 2019 at 11:18 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Lek - February 12, 2019 at 1:46 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Amarok - February 12, 2019 at 9:51 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Fake Messiah - February 13, 2019 at 1:10 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by The Grand Nudger - February 12, 2019 at 1:49 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Lek - February 12, 2019 at 2:02 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Divinity - February 12, 2019 at 2:10 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Lek - February 12, 2019 at 2:35 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by The Grand Nudger - February 12, 2019 at 2:38 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by The Grand Nudger - February 12, 2019 at 4:30 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by The Grand Nudger - February 13, 2019 at 1:16 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Lek - February 13, 2019 at 5:05 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by The Grand Nudger - February 13, 2019 at 5:07 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Lek - February 13, 2019 at 5:21 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 13, 2019 at 5:53 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by The Grand Nudger - February 13, 2019 at 5:34 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Lek - February 13, 2019 at 6:20 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Yonadav - February 13, 2019 at 6:52 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Fake Messiah - February 14, 2019 at 2:37 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Amarok - February 14, 2019 at 2:40 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Fake Messiah - February 14, 2019 at 3:15 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Lek - February 14, 2019 at 1:42 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Amarok - February 14, 2019 at 7:46 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Fake Messiah - February 15, 2019 at 3:06 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Pat Mustard - February 13, 2019 at 6:26 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Lek - February 13, 2019 at 6:36 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Brian37 - February 13, 2019 at 6:56 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Lek - February 13, 2019 at 7:24 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by The Grand Nudger - February 13, 2019 at 6:47 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Lek - February 13, 2019 at 6:52 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by The Grand Nudger - February 13, 2019 at 6:58 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by The Grand Nudger - February 13, 2019 at 7:25 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Lek - February 13, 2019 at 8:39 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by The Grand Nudger - February 13, 2019 at 9:07 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Lek - February 13, 2019 at 9:35 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by arewethereyet - February 13, 2019 at 10:15 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Yonadav - February 13, 2019 at 10:28 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Lek - February 13, 2019 at 10:29 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Yonadav - February 13, 2019 at 10:37 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by arewethereyet - February 13, 2019 at 10:47 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Amarok - February 14, 2019 at 1:44 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Cecelia - February 14, 2019 at 2:12 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Amarok - February 14, 2019 at 2:15 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by The Grand Nudger - February 14, 2019 at 1:46 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by The Grand Nudger - February 14, 2019 at 10:53 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Amarok - February 15, 2019 at 2:28 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by LadyForCamus - February 14, 2019 at 11:10 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Fireball - February 14, 2019 at 11:32 pm
RE: Illegal Immigration - by The Grand Nudger - February 15, 2019 at 12:45 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by Fireball - February 15, 2019 at 1:37 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by The Grand Nudger - February 15, 2019 at 2:32 am
RE: Illegal Immigration - by The Grand Nudger - February 15, 2019 at 3:16 am

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