Morality

[Brian37]

I spent my childhood running from bullies, and that in turn cased me to be destructive as a teen. I am lucky, I outgrew it. 

And no, I didn't "suggest" I stated it did change me for the positive.

And don't try to play shrink with me ok? I am a very kind person, but also a person who can smell BS at the same time.

I apologize if you took anything I said personally, or as any type of judgement of you as a person.

I don’t know you, but I’m sure you’re  a decent dude, I doubt the conclusion that school made you a more moral person, not that you’re not a good person, but that’s okay I won’t push the questions any further.

Being a good person to me is simple. Don't get violent with others, and don't judge them because of their pay or class Outside that, yes

In my view that’s a pretty weak concept of a good person, an apathetic person, could fit the bill.

Being good in my view is being a person of good character, kind, honest, compassionate, considerate, humble, courageous, etc.. in fact I’d say moral courage is a big one, to stand up for what’s right when needed.

Raising a daughter, i value her being a good person, over being smart. I rather have a good child, a kind and loving one, than a scientific genius.

I didn't say you were judging me. I have seen this tactic by theists long before I met you.

"Good character", that is a loaded Chichi. Hitler and Stalin's supporters would have argued they were of "good character" too.

"Kind" yea, that doesn't mean one has to be a doormat, or never challenge the claims of others.

"honest", that's rich coming from someone defending old mythology. I am sure you honestly believe it, but no, I don't think you are being honest with yourself.

"Compassionate".... Again, that also does not mean never objecting to bad claims.

"Considerate" Yes I do consider where I make an argument and when I make an argument, and right now I am on an atheist website that allows guests including theists. Maybe you need to consider where you are at? 

"Humble".... That is a hard argument to make while defending a book with a head character who is hardly "humble" himself and spends the entire book saying "obey me or else", and "Look at me, it is all about me."

I most certainly am humble. Don't confuse bluntness with lack of humility. I accept I am finite, I accept that life will go on without me and do fine without me. I am not so arrogant as  to think the universe cannot exist without me. It will be fine long after I am gone.

And stop making education an either or thing. It is a fact that better educated society has a tendency to be more stable. I never claimed every single human must become Hawking or be considered a loser. But it is still possible for laypeople to have the basics. 

You don't have to be Richard Dawkins to understand the basics of evolution, or to accept it. You don't have to be Neil Degrasse Tyson to accept that the earth is a globe. I cant do a fraction to save my life myself, but I also don't have to be able to build a car from scratch to be able to drive one, and to also know cars don't run on Speed Racer cartoon dust.

And do not think I don't understand what you are saying about your daughter. My late mother accepted me with all my faults, and while growing up she did try to make me a clone of her, in her old age she grew to accept me for me, even though I never turned out to be a professional with a high paying job.  She was still happy that I wasn't a criminal, or violent, and she grew to see and accept that I was a good person. 

Sorry but all you are doing is saying, "I am better off because of my religion." Yea well, 7 billion people, and plenty of humans with other religions claim the same thing.