(January 19, 2019 at 1:10 pm)Amarok Wrote:(January 19, 2019 at 1:03 pm)Yonadav Wrote: Personally, I have never been convinced that there is any such thing as reproductive rights. Just because you can have a baby doesn't mean that you have a right to have a baby. A lot of people say that the right to have a baby follows from the ability to have a baby. I disagree. I don't think that it follows. The right to do a thing never follows from the ability to do a thing, except for apparently in this one matter. That's a bit odd.Birth is a exception I'm sorry . A woman must have total sovereignty over her body otherwise it's forced reproduction.
BINGO!
The part about the pro birther's which is what they really are, because they don't want to do shit for the child after it is born.
They act like pro choice people go door to door and say, knock the kid up, knock the women up, then have an abortion so we can gloat and throw a keg party. Which is not the case. Pro choice is about education, female empowerment, female economics, female health, and family planing. Outlawing abortion will not end abortion, it will simply send desperate people back into allies with coat hangers.
And the other thing I never get a rational response for is how should the female be punished? The pro birthers never want to punish the female, but only the provider. If two people plan a bank robbery and the teller gets murdered both are charged equally no matter who pulled the trigger on the gun.
