RE: Morality
January 22, 2019 at 4:59 pm
(This post was last modified: January 22, 2019 at 5:13 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(January 22, 2019 at 3:23 pm)Acrobat Wrote:What economic benefit? Slaves are famously labor inefficient. What could a pool of slaves produce or do that a pool of free men cannot could not or has not? Splitting the baby won't work here..there's just the one baby...and somebody wants to buy it.(January 22, 2019 at 3:06 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Apathy and convenience masquerading as thoughtful restraint, lol.
No apathy and convenience, the economic benefit etc.. seem too encapsulate it, not any thoughtful restraint. Judaism particularly in its early formation was quite tribal in its moral perspectives, and wasn't all that concerned with the welfare or treatment of others outside their tribe. Even jewish slaves were treated better than non-jewish slaves, etc....
Yes, old magic book describes the chattel ethos of the people who wrote it - it does this by purporting to speak on the issue of a good and proper life as described by the law of god in relation to human ownership. They were terrible assholes, lol. Their god was..like them..a terrible asshole. He could have simply said "hey, you terrible assholes, stop it with the slave trade". He did not. The apathy of the divine becomes the apathy of the adherent. They certainly believed that their asshole god endorsed slavery and left provisions to them regaring it;s practice.
You, today, apparently do not..but I'd like to see you establish how you came to that conclusion..it is their god, their magic book, after all. Additionally, we've yet to see an explanation of why this change from a biblical morality to your own has occurred, and how you square that circle with the continuity of those same god beliefs and any potentially objective morality that can be derived from a text or to which that text conforms. How this change defends itself against charges of subjectivity and relativism. These things are not challenging to those who are not hobbled by a compulsion to rehabilitate magic books.
The non natural realists response would be immensely useful to you here, in that you can suggest that we discovered some disparity of empirical fact that lead us to reassess the status of our interactions with regards to non natural facts of goodness. What could that have been though? Well..we discovered that this was some slaver scribbling shit in, that slavery is not necessary or good but the opposite of them both, and that "god" never wrote or said or intoned or suggested or inspired any such bullshit. In short, that magic book was talking out of it's ass.
Once we reach that point..I suppose we'll just have to trust that your decoder ring works..and you can tell us when it's talking out of it's ass and when it isn't, lol. Personally..I think you'd have an easier time rattling off those few instances in which it isn't. Sheer force of a shorter list.
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