RE: Morality
January 22, 2019 at 5:32 pm
(This post was last modified: January 22, 2019 at 5:35 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(January 22, 2019 at 5:27 pm)Acrobat Wrote:You mean the convenience of being the person-owner..not some economic benefit to society or humanity, necessitated i by a dire situation.(January 22, 2019 at 4:59 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: What economic benefit? Slaves are famously labor inefficient. What could a pool of slaves produce or do that a pool of free men cannot could not or has not? Splitting the baby won't work here..there's just the one baby...and somebody wants to buy it.
Uhm the economic benefits of having to pay your employees nothing, while reaping all the benefits of their labor. It might become inefficient in the long run, but if it was as inefficient as you suggested it wouldn’t have been so wide spread as it was, through out history.
God deferred to simple human greed? He's all about keeping his mammon situated?....lol. Or is that the writer of old magioc book...or...is that you? The answer, in this case, is all of the above.
Quote:I don’t believe God literally told them anything, and the moral views of the OT writings are the views of their respective communities, that they had no special access to what’s right and wrong, anymore so then their pagan neighbors, or you and I. So if you want to continue taking about the moral failing of the biblical writers, ancient communities, etc.. by all means go ahead, but don’t expect me to be some apologist for them. The bible contains contains an evolving conception of god over the course of history, earlier portraits not consistent with later portraits etc, even if they have some shared roots.I get that, I get that you don't believe what they believed (that;s kindoff a given..isn't it?).
I'm wondering why..and how you maintain the credibility of magic book after laying out your objections.
Quote:Again, where did I ever suggest that morality comes from the Bible? That one needs texts like the Bible to know what’s right and wrong? Paul himself acknowledges that the gentiles even practice the moral law, without ever having a book.Then you can answer the other potentiality I included. That some portion of magic book conforms to a meaningfully objective morality..rather than a subjective or relative morality...how to distinguish between cases...and from above...how we maintain the credibility of magic book after having laid out those objections.
Quote:I’m not sure how many more times people are going ascribe beliefs to me that I do hold, than expect me to defend it.Platonism is a form of non natural realism. Part of it's genesis, no less. All of these questions posed to you by myself and others should present no specific difficulty.
As I indicated my view of morality is platonic, not requiring a bible for it.
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