(January 22, 2019 at 5:55 pm)Acrobat Wrote:Magic book says it did. Is magic book an authority on what god did or didn't do?(January 22, 2019 at 5:32 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: You mean the convenience of being the person-owner..not some economic benefit to society or humanity, necessitated i by a dire situation.
The person-owner, and his tribe that he’s contributing to, with no real concern for the greater society or humanity as a whole.
Quote:God deferred to simple human greed?
God didn’t defer to anything.
Quote:I never appealed to the Bible in this argument about morality, so I never appealed to its credibility in this area either.You must have realized..when making blanket and untrue assertions about atheists and moral concepts...that you may end up explaining how you overcome those difficulties you seem to find prescient.
Quote:What is meaningful objective morality?Good question. You tell me..so that we're on the same page with this and can always refer back to it.
Quote:Is there an external reality called the Good, that places moral obligations on us, tells us how we ought to behave and live? That I ought serve it, over my own self interest?Yes, no.....no.....and yes....all regardless of moralities ontological status.
Quote:In order for morality to be objective, it’s requires a reality independent of ourselves, that contains moral values, and moral aims and purposes. Not some cold disinterested reality, but one that’s concerned about our moral lives.Why would it need to contain aims or purposes? We supply those handily.
Why would it need to be interested? We're interested enough. -How- could it be interested? Concerned? These are human attributes. Anthropomorphization of the cosmos. A god.
Are we discussing objective moralities..or gods?
Quote:Is that what you believe? Like I do. If not than your moral realism is in doubt.OFC not..I'm an atheist. Why would my moral realism be in doubt on account of my atheism..and why is your moral realism -not- in doubt on account of your god beliefs?
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