RE: Beating women in Islam
January 22, 2019 at 9:39 pm
(This post was last modified: January 22, 2019 at 10:12 pm by WinterHold.)
(January 22, 2019 at 1:53 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:You realize that by supporting any Islam, even the mythical one you seem to want to imagine has or could exist, you are giving aid and comfort to the enemy who is making your life hell, don't you?
No. My enemy -the Sauds- are claiming to be the protectors of Islam and claim Islam as a personal possession, that's why they have a sword in their flag.
Nobody assigned them as representitives of Islam. They are "Muslims" not "Islam". They must stand in line and obey the law of the faith just like any other Muslim.
BTW, the only asset they use to "invade this mythological rank of being Islam's protectors" is the existence of Mecca in their realm. Of course they invaded it. Mecca belongs to nobody but the natives of that land, not "country".
It's just like me invading the Vatican and claim to be "decedent from Jesus because I hold the Vatican". It's ironic, funny, and leads you to think about how simple people are.
So no my dear; believe me my beliefs never gives the Sauds comfort. Rather it makes them so so so so angry.
(January 22, 2019 at 3:27 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: The campaign of military conquest which formed the religion and cultural phenomena of islam is another representative of that same set. We, in the west, also see it the way that you do. Though we generally consider our own actions worse - the natives weren't exactly threatening us with terrorism, chemical weapons and other assorted hijacked wmds, or potentially capable conventional invasions....lol.
No. Spanish Conquestadors -followed by Europeans colonists- just fucked the natives up because they couldn't do the same to tougher, more organized empires like the Ottoman empire.
The Conquestadors just bullied the natives because they were weak and they just wanted their land and money. It was so easy for the Spanish crown to make victories there; making victories against Muslims in the East was more...trickier.
(January 22, 2019 at 4:36 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Um no Atlass.
I am being very far to you. No religion, not even Buddhism should be called a "philosophy". They are all religions.
Every religion in the world bar none, claims to be the source for the best path to peace. Hatred between different religions or sub sects of the same religions do not have to exist, that part is true, but it takes religion to allow far to many in each camp to make justifications for reasons for tribalism.
While the word "atheist" is not a religion, I also would not want my fellow "off" position holders to go around falsely assuming that if all 7 billion of us were atheists no divisions would happen. Even if all 7 billion of us were atheists we would also have our divisions.
If we are currently speaking at this point in human history, the biggest offenders CURRENTLY WHO CREATE the most tribalism and division would be between Christians, Muslims and Jews. CURRENTLY, even among the same sub sects of each religion.
I think it is better for humans to accept the claims of antiquity belong in the past, not to be forgotten, but only in that the religions of antiquity reflect a far more isolated and ignorant species.
But Philosophy means:
Quote:a theory or attitude that acts as a guiding principle for behaviour.
"don't expect anything and you won't be disappointed, that's my philosophy"
synonyms:
beliefs, credo, faith, convictions, ideology, ideas, thinking, notions, theories, doctrine, tenets, values, principles, ethics, attitude, line, view, viewpoint, outlook, world view, school of thought;
Weltanschauung
"I'd like to see your philosophy in action"
? literally Brian; the word "faith" and the word "belief" are both synonyms of the word.
Everybody claims. You claim I claim; Democrats claim while Trump claims too; everybody claims. Isn't this life?
The judge is your action; not claims.
If somebody doesn't like division between humans as a natural fact our minds enforce on our life; I need to really question their psychological state and their position on the right of other humans to live freely.
Tribalism in its most vicious -and fast- way, was shown in the division of land taking place since the conquests of America by Europe. Literally whole nations got killed, and new nations were created out of thin air -engineered to be more accurate- by the hand of the victor in a very fast time, theists never done that and never even could.
But non theists did it in 200 or 300 years.
