RE: why do we enjoy poetry From the perspective of neuroscience?
January 23, 2019 at 12:41 pm
(This post was last modified: January 23, 2019 at 12:47 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(January 23, 2019 at 11:28 am)bennyboy Wrote:Well, two things, the same things as before. One..that's not strictly true, and two...I still don't know how (or even why) necessity is informing you here.(January 23, 2019 at 9:52 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: Leftover piece of a puzzle? I asked you why you thought that consciousness would have to be necessary. Necessity is not at all how we understand evolution to operate, is why I ask.
Sure, it's a leftover piece. It is not accounted for in any physical description of the world, and is not required for any of the calculations. And yet, here it is.
Quote:I don't much feel like arguing the semantics of the term "necessary," but I can repeat what I already said about evolution.Okay?
1) If qualia adds something beyond material mechanism, then the Universe is not material monist
Quote:2) If qualia adds nothing beyond mechanism, then there's no reason for it to have evolvedThis is a reassertion, not an explanation. So what if there are 29 other ways to skin a cat...Benny? Things don't evolve for the kind of "reason" you seem to be referring to in the first place.....meanwhile, plenty of ways to skin a cat have evolved.
Even more fundamentally, just speaking to the coherence of your objection..you don't get to quibble about what hasn't been added once you assert the possibility of p-zombies..either. Qualia has been added...requirement met...so..doa?
Quote:If you want to contend that qualia are a coincidental supervenient property of the evolved brain, then I'd say that's quite the fantastic coinkydink.Is it, care to show your math..or why you think that....?
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