(January 22, 2019 at 11:17 pm)PRJA93 Wrote: Short answer: No, atheism is not a belief.
Longer answer: Atheism is a belief as much as bald is a hair cut, off is a tv channel or virginity is a sex position. Atheism is simply not holding or having a belief in god. It's not saying you know there isn't a god, or you're stating that there certainly isn't one. You're simply saying you do not buy into the proposition of god. You have not provided evidence of a god, therefore I have no reason to believe there is one. Period. Nothing more.
All this is, is using semantics as a round-a-bout way of attempting to get atheists to admit that atheism is a belief, because if it is a belief then it requires faith, and if it requires faith then us atheists must have faith, and if us atheists have faith then clearly we're using our faith to tell us there isn't a god as much as you're telling yourself there is one, and if we're both saying that then guess what? It's a wash! I have faith, you have faith, we have faith, he and she have faith! We all have faith! So you might as well use that faith to believe in god instead of not believing in one, silly atheist!
Let me stop you right there. It is not a belief. It does not require faith to NOT believe in god. Just like it does not require faith for you to NOT believe in magical space elves. You've never seen magical space elves, there's no evidence of magical space elves, so you simply live your life as if they're not there.
You are wrong. Atheism is not a belief. Can we please stop having this ridiculous debate? Theists make themselves look incredibly stupid when trying this disingenuous nonsense and you make the conversations we have about religion harder because of it. Grow up. Provide evidence for your claim and then we can talk.
/End of fucking thread.
They also seem to devalue their own position by trying to equate a position of faith, with one of the absence of religious faith.
Normally with a position of a faith, a theist would say they have a "relationship" (with their god of choice), and possibly would have other things to say about that, ie "additional features or benefits". In trying to equate the theist position with one that includes none of that, .. ie no relationship, no "other benefits", it seems they are saying their position is equivalent in a practical sense, to "nothing". I doubt they really realize what they are saying.
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell
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Militant Atheist Commie Evolutionist