(January 30, 2019 at 11:34 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote:(January 30, 2019 at 11:30 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: I use the design around me to conclude his existence.
A non-believer should do the same and admit that they are also following a mere conclusion.
And both of us should wait until God rules between us. I say he's there; you say he's not.
That is said to both believers and non-believers; btw.
I don't say "God doesn't exist," I say that I an unconvinced by arguments for his existence. You've been here for years, you should at least know the positions that most atheists take. I don't see design in nature, so I don't use that to conclude anything about a designer. You're making an assertion about the un-examinable 96% of the universe based on faulty reasoning, and expecting that to be compelling? Sorry, I think you're just as ignorant about the universe as I am, only I don't go making assertions about the unknown - since it's, y'know, unknown.
If your argument is "wait for God to come prove it," then why bother making threads at all?
According to the book I have -the Quran-, the moment of your death is the end for your trial. We had all our lifespan to follow that God.
I don't care about your choices in life, but the people who preach this message are favored by this God, and I love to amplify the truth as I see it.
I believe we will be re-created again in what is known as judgement day, and that day I would prefer to have it written in my records that I spent years calling for the belief I believe in.
And in this life; what do humans have; really? their manufactured "philosophies" led to world wars, set the world in a gas chamber called "the age of nuclear deterrence", created economical bubbles that explode, left a whole continent living in poverty..
That makes me stay here to call for this religion even more, and ask to rethink what's above the 96% of the universe.
