(October 3, 2011 at 12:00 pm)salty Wrote:
(October 2, 2011 at 6:59 am)Zen Badger Wrote:(October 1, 2011 at 7:04 pm)salty Wrote: Do you like for every person to agree with you? Is this the first time someone has shown an opposing view? I did not contradict myself, you just refused to accept my reasoning. I explain to you that the simple fact that bodies of the same gender cannot come together, therefore by nature this combination is wrong, but your emotions are leading you, so you cannot understand me. There are no absolutes when it comes to relationships. There is no contradiction when someone leaves room for error, for the circumstance where things work out and when they don't. Be done with me if you want, but know that I am entitled to share my opinion.
I'm not opposed to disagreement but you need to have valid reasons for it.
And in my view you don't. "Oh it's wrong because their bits don't fit together and it's not natural"
Well, so fucking what?!?!?
By that reasoning we should give up flying in aeroplanes because our bodies aren't "designed" for flight.
I believe your husband is causasian?
How would you feel if someone told you that mixed marriages are sinful because black and white shouldn't be interbreeding?
And there are PLENTY of good little christians who think exactly that.
But here there be atheists who are of the opinion that when two people love each other sufficently that they are prepared to commit to each other for the rest of their lives, their gender, color or religion don't matter a fuck.
It is not wrong.
And if you can't see that then you are just as prejudiced, bigoted and narrowminded as any member of the KKK.
Zen,
I'm sorry to get you worked up like this. Every adult can choose their own path, but I stand by the fact that it is unnatural. Will any of these thoughts stop a gril in my wedding from being gay? Will any of these thoughts, stop my coworker, my cousin, my former boss, my other friends from being gay? No, everyone chooses for themselves, it just hurts when someone disagrees, especially when a good amount of people agree on the topic.
Let's clear up the opinion you expressed:
1. I am Black, so I won't be allowed to join the KKK. Please refrain from using your anger to answer for you, it's really offensive for you to say that I'm involved in a society that still works to undermine Black advancement and to be cruel to Blacks without knowing people individually. I never claimed to hate homosexuals, actually I would think it would be difficult to do so as the ones that I know are funny, smart and helpful, but that doesn't change that their behavior is unnatural and they know my opinion, yet we're still friends.
2. My husband is white, you are correct, and there are still people that feel that interracial couples are wrong because they don't want white "blood" to be mixed with black "blood", but science tells us that we can give blood to each other and save lives, so this notion of imbreeding or black people having different blood is a misconception (except for sickle-cell anemia, that's a condition that is more prevalent in Blacks than anyone else).
3. Biblically, interracial marriage was never an issue, even though Whites would use the Bible as a way to claim that each racial group should stay with its own. It was interreligious marriage that God does not like. He doesn't want his people to be dragged away from him by a spouse that worships idols. Even in the New Testament the Lord declares that one should not marry someone who is not a believer, but if they are already married and one person chooses to believe and another does not, the Lord says to not divorce (unless the unbeliever does not want to be married to a believer, then the believer is released from the relationship, but the believer should not leave the relationship otherwise).
Remember, back then people were against interracial relationships because they felt that Blacks were less than human, stupid, worthless, etc. Things they had done to us by not allowing us to read, not paying us fair wages, not giving us any rights. (Which reminds me, there are Christians, myself among them, that believe homosexuals shouldn't be discriminated against in jobs, clubs, wages etc) But science tells us that humans are humans correct? That ethnicity does not stop someone from being human, like the Whites would say. When they made arguments against interracial relationships they weren't angry about love, they were afraid of these multi-ethnic children, about blacks becoming educated and equal, about Blacks achieving things that Whites hadn't done, they were afraid to lose their servants, to lose the safe culture they knew.
If someone told me that my husband and I couldn't be together I would show that Biblically I am approved to be married to my husband. Also, I would show that nature declares any woman and any man can conceive children together. If they persisted, I would leave them to their opinion.
And you would deny to others the rights you demand for yourself because of the words written 2000 years ago by a bunch of unwashed goatherders.
If you find my anger offensive, how much more offensive do you think your bigotry(masquerading as religious piety) is???
I'm done. Any respect you might have garnered here has just been lost.
If you're not supposed to ride faster than your guardian angel can fly then mine had better get a bloody SR-71.