RE: About vegans
January 31, 2019 at 8:18 pm
(This post was last modified: January 31, 2019 at 8:21 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(January 31, 2019 at 8:08 pm)bennyboy Wrote:I know....I'm involved in that movement. Balls deep, everything I own, lol. I utilize tilapia growout and water soluble effluent to grow veggies in an assortment of troughs, racks, and towers. Mostly troughs.(January 30, 2019 at 8:09 pm)no one Wrote: Life is brutal. That's how it goes. Something has to die in order for me to live. Human beings were not meant to be vegans. They would be extinct, if they were not meat meat eaters.
Appealing to naturalism can justify a lot of behaviors. Try these on for size:
"We were not meant to be peaceful." --justify war
"We were meant to be tribal." --justify racism
"We were meant to live about 30 years." --justify forced "euthanasia" of senior citizens
I think the idea of modern society is that we are attempting to supplant our natural inclinations in favor of a more idealistic reality. Humane treatment of animals seems like a valid candidate to me.
(January 31, 2019 at 6:51 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: I think grainfed beef tastes better too..was more a comment on being able to free up and develop land for other things - that and grassfed is sustainable.
The idea that we need large tracts of farmable land is false, btw. A lot of food can be grown in a much more vertical form-- huge solar buildings with algae cultures, for example. Then there are bodies of water, which can provide seaweed and marine animals.
Quote:In order to better understand this, we really have to understand the whole process: mineral composition of soil or water, photosynthesis, and the texturing of various kinds of plant and animal cells. Maybe not now, but I think with science we can provide food that actually appeals to the palate and doesn't require the unnecessary suffering or killing of living beings.Right now the problem for vertical farms is fertigation. Both in the source and the level of processing required to compete head to head with conventionals.
I've had textured soy meats in Korea, quite a lot. They are not meat, and don't taste like meat. But they have a similar fat / protein content, lots of vitamins, and so on. Their texture is complex enough (a mix of stringy, juicy, etc.) that I don't much regret that I won't be eating a Big Mac any time soon.
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