RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
February 2, 2019 at 10:31 am
(This post was last modified: February 2, 2019 at 10:41 am by CDF47.)
(February 2, 2019 at 5:16 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote:(February 2, 2019 at 4:07 am)CDF47 Wrote: On submission to authority, His point was that all governance are in place under the providence of God. So submit to the power He has in place. The wicked powers are in place due to the behaviors of the people. If people acted right we would not have an authoritarian government like we have today spying on and harassing people to name a couple things.
Yah... See that's the rather big sticking point.
One shuold respect authority... For as long as said authority is still doing the things for which it garners our respect. So, since respect has to be earned. Those of authority have to do things such that they deserve said repsect.
Just sitting back and claiming to have done everything is worth... well...nothing.
Again, as people have pointed out, under your view of reality your diety is directly responsivble for everything.
Good? Evil? Your diety supposedly made the lot. There is effectivly nothing humans can do againmst this seat of afairs.
It's all been set up long before we even came on the scene. We people now trying to get absovled for womething we did not do is simply wrong and sucks.
At least under the All Father, there's a big drive for people to own their own destiny etc. Plus a Pantheon has less problems with the whole notion of "Problem of evil" since some of the bad things that happen... happen for random reasons between diety's etc.
Not at work.
I believe random things can still happen but in regards to governing nations, the Lord is in control. In the Bible, when the Lord's people behave poorly they find themselves being led by unrighteous leaders. This is what is happening around the world today, including in the US. Just to clarify Peebo.
The Lord is in control, I agree. The Lord can use evil but He Himself is not evil. It is our fault we are in the situation we are in now. The Constitution of the US is a great document to protect us from the ills of a poorly led governing nation but even that has it's limits when there are intelligence agencies and secret societies running rampant in the US, doing whatever they please to an extent.
(February 2, 2019 at 5:28 am)downbeatplumb Wrote:(February 2, 2019 at 5:16 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: Yah... See that's the rather big sticking point.A pantheon of gods would be more likely than just the one. In the same way that you don't just get one ant.
One shuold respect authority... For as long as said authority is still doing the things for which it garners our respect. So, since respect has to be earned. Those of authority have to do things such that they deserve said repsect.
Just sitting back and claiming to have done everything is worth... well...nothing.
Again, as people have pointed out, under your view of reality your diety is directly responsivble for everything.
Good? Evil? Your diety supposedly made the lot. There is effectivly nothing humans can do againmst this seat of afairs.
It's all been set up long before we even came on the scene. We people now trying to get absovled for womething we did not do is simply wrong and sucks.
At least under the All Father, there's a big drive for people to own their own destiny etc. Plus a Pantheon has less problems with the whole notion of "Problem of evil" since some of the bad things that happen... happen for random reasons between diety's etc.
Not at work.
Reality is there is one triune God.
(February 2, 2019 at 7:18 am)Gae Bolga Wrote:(February 2, 2019 at 3:44 am)CDF47 Wrote: How did I make it more ridiculous than it is in your opinion?
Your cretinist beliefs. They're unnecessary, and wrong. I will never understand why christians insist that christianity be so stupid.
I guess we will just have to disagree on that point. I think it is important to look at the science behind things as well as the Bible. The Bible comes first of course.
(February 2, 2019 at 8:40 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote:(February 2, 2019 at 4:07 am)CDF47 Wrote: I believe I provided proof, not just evidence.Nope. You provided wild unevidenced claims and when challenged could do nothing except repeat the same claims over and over and over like a brainwashed automaton.
(February 2, 2019 at 4:07 am)CDF47 Wrote: I read the entire Bible cover to cover.OK then you advocate slavery.
(February 2, 2019 at 4:07 am)CDF47 Wrote: I went to Catholic high school and had religion class for 4 years. I made my Communion and Confirmation in the Catholic church (I am now more of a protestant though). For periods of my life I attended church every week. I study the Bible and I belong to a Christian forum which I visit daily.Yep. Brainwashed.
(February 2, 2019 at 4:07 am)CDF47 Wrote: I understand my faith.No, you really don't. You just make crap up out of whole cloth on a whim of convenience with no reasoning behind it.
(February 2, 2019 at 4:07 am)CDF47 Wrote: There is nothing wrong with Dr. Meyer. I believe he disagreed with the case the entire time from my understanding.Yes there is. He substituted his brain with the superstitious muck that you like so much. It is so evil that it drives people to flat out lie just like you.
I try really hard to be an honest person so that is not true what you say about me. I am not brainwashed either. I do not advocate slavery. I know the Lord allowed slavery and had rules for it but it existed in those times and He just added regulation to it. It was to be led by righteous leaders that would take care of their slaves, not abuse them. So I am against slavery.
(February 2, 2019 at 9:37 am)Bucky Ball Wrote:Quote:The Jews didn't recognize their Messiah when He came here.
Below is information on the Bible verse you referenced.
https://www.gotquestions.org/Queen-of-Heaven.html
He never got the job of a messiah done.
The link you posted is biased, ignorant and a lie.
He conquered sin when He was here for man. He atoned for sin. He definitely got the job done when He was here. His message is followed by church members the world over still today.
The LORD Exists: http://www.godandscience.org/
Intelligent Design (Short Video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVkdQhNdzHU
Intelligent Design (Longer Video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzj8iXiVDT8
Intelligent Design (Short Video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVkdQhNdzHU
Intelligent Design (Longer Video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzj8iXiVDT8