(February 4, 2019 at 11:29 pm)Agnostico Wrote: Im not focused on one particular claim of God like the Christian one. For me a God is any kind of creator.
What is the probability of there being some kind of God, creator, intelligent design?
Should the atheists answer be 0%?
If the answer is greater than 5% is the person an atheist still?
If the answer is greater than 30% is the person still an atheist?
To calculate probabilities, you would need more than one data point. We don't have that. We have exactly one universe as a data point.
The ONLY thing that can rationaly be justified from examining the only universe we are able to examine, is that the universe exists.
If you are claiming that the probabilities that our universe has the hallmarks of intelligent design, you have to have an idea of what a universe not created by a god would look like.
By the way, over 70% of all scientists are atheists (Leuba study) as of 1998. As you can see below, the study was repeated 3 times, and the percentage of atheists increased each time. So, as scientific knowledge increases, god beliefs decrease. Why are the experts in associated fields of science, not as convinced as you?
Belief in personal God 1914 1933 1998
Personal belief 27.7 15 7.0
Personal disbelief 52.7 68 72.2
Doubt or agnosticism 20.9 17 20.8
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
