RE: Is atheism a belief?
February 5, 2019 at 2:49 pm
(This post was last modified: February 5, 2019 at 3:13 pm by Bucky Ball.)
(February 5, 2019 at 8:32 am)Acrobat Wrote: Yet time itself had a beginning. A timeless state led/caused/resulted in ours with time.
You have no way of knowing that. Roger Penrose, (Hawking's friend) ("Cycles of Time") says you're wrong.
Quote:No, intelligence when it comes to a creator, tend to follow from acknowledging elements of reality possessing features associated with creative acts, like teleological elements, purposes and aims, foresight, meaning etc...
People can infer from such things, that we’re part of a created, or purposeful order, and their belief that there is a God, can be synonymous with this belief.
Total bullshit.
"elements of reality possessing features associated with creative acts, like teleological elements, purposes and aims, foresight, meaning etc..."
.... ALL require a functioning healthy brain. Brains LEARN what those concepts mean and are, and apart from brains, the concepts have no existence. You have no mechanism for this nonsense. There exist no "elements" of reality which exist apart from brains in some metaphysical woo-sphere. You want to explain to us how the babies who died from thirst, starvation, cancer and disease yesterday are part of a created purposeful order ? There is no "order". When Reality is examined at it's fundamental level (what we now know about it), it's probablalistic. Sorry. There can be no such inference. Also the "inference" assumes that what appears to human brains to be "intuitive" is the way Reality works. It has been proven over and over it does not work that way. Is Relativity "intuitive" ? Nope. Is Uncertainty "intuitive". What can one infer from the non-intuitive math of Dirac's tensors ?
Not only can we make no inferences based on this universe, you don't *even* have a sample of one ... 95 % of the universe is unknown, (Dark Energy and Dark matter). Quantum entanglement is unexplained, other possible dimensions are not understood, .... you have no way to know anything about Reality apart from this one universe, and no reason at all to assume Reality works apart from this universe, as it does in this local part of this universe.
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell 
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Militant Atheist Commie Evolutionist
