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I wan't to express, that I disliked Rick and Morty season 3
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RE: I wan't to express, that I disliked Rick and Morty season 3
Quote:Yes, in a more realistic setting that's definitely advisable. But this particular situation is very far removed from any reality we know. I don't think the Citadel is meant to be a direct representation of real life governments, or authorities. Especially that in another episode Rick and Morty face off against the actual government. But even if I'm wrong and the creators do have some anarchistic sympathies (which wouldn't be unheard of in the world of artists) - I still don't see the problem with that. It's a cartoon. No one in their right mind bases their political views on a cartoon.

Well, I still consider a bad message a bad message, even if nobody takes it seriously. You have the right to watch what you enjoy. I'm not exactly trying to change your opinion, it's more that I want to express what I personally feel. Also, if you express a good message, even with a cartoon, even in a comedic way, you might convince some that this message is good. If someone takes example from this cartoon, they weren't in their right mind in the first place and there are other things that might've influenced them negatively. And to be clear, I wasn't stating that the creators are anarchists, I just said that this show looks a lot like that's the case. It might not have been intentional.

Quote:No, that would just be "South Park". Parker and Stone get a lot of criticism for spelling out political messages on their show. I doubt Harmon and Roiland want that hate-mail.

Rick (the protagonist) is essentially a nihilist, which is made quite clear. As such - he doesn't really appear to have strong political opinions - because he only cares about politics, when it gets in his way.

I understand that they don't want hate e-mail, but would they be really like "South Park" if a character didn't believe that the council is hypocritical for creating a government? What if the council responded to Rick that becoming a government themselves doesn't make them hypocrites? It would've been short and not much of a political matter, but more about hypocrisy.

Quote:But other genres can use sci-fi elements and even settings, without being generally perceived, or classified as sci-fi. Many people  - myself included - don't consider "Star Wars" sci-fi. And cartoons are a grey area, because we don't apply the same standards of realism and consistency to animation, as we instinctively do to most forms of story-telling. Perhaps that's because of the association with children's entertainment.  

As I said - "Pickle Rick" episode was technically sci-fi, but I don't think that classification does it any favors. It's a decent enough 20 min comedy cartoon, but pretty sloppy and far-fetched by science-fiction standards.

While people transforming into animals or objects is a current thing in phantasy, sometimes being able to talk, I never read any fairytale where it's stated that an object has a face. Also, I have a genuine question. Is there any organisation that decides what every genre is?

Quote:Maybe because after it was uncovered, that Evil Rick was controlled by unknown someone, Ricks became more cautious about this kind of thing? Is it too difficult to imagine, that since Evil Morty's power was based on technology, then it could be countered by Ricks' technology - once they became aware of it? Does the show have to explain itself every time the story goes a different way than you'd have liked?

No, it doesn't. But if not given a certain information, people may interpret things differently. I understand that not every show is for me, there are plenty of things that I like and some others don't. Having evil Morty using mind control wouldn't be the only direction that I would've enjoyed.

Quote:Ricks electing an evil child for leader was a funny idea, especially since Americans elected an obvious incompetent racist oaf from reality TV, which is something very few believed could happen before 2016. I don't see how  complicating the story would have made it better, especially when the creators seem to be pretty serious about their creative freedom to subvert expectations.

I personally don't see this as funny, and I'll tell you why. 1. The Ricks are supposed to be geniuses. I understand that dizzy geniuses aren't uncommon in the media, but have them be so oblivious to the world while the main Rick is a lot more competent, it makes me confused. Even for a comedy. It reminds me of Dexter's Lab again. In one episode he has gas after eating a burrito and makes an experiment in which he inflates a balloon in order to see what happens. The balloon explodes and so he thinks he will die. No real life person would think that that's the case, but that's about it. I found the rest of the jokes funny and this show doesn't care about continuity. Also, Dexter's Lab had a lot less serious moments than Rick and Morty. 2. Evil Morty while a kid, he is also a genius. We don't know if the Ricks know that or not. I did complain about him being a child in the OP, but more because his opponents are so immature that I don't have any clue if he is supposed to be like an adult only in comparison to them or not. There is also the fact that evil Morty is competent, serious, calm and gives pretty good speeches, while Trump is obnoxious and can be impolite. Maybe the joke was that even a kid is more competent than Trump, but it doesn't work for me if said kid is a genius and I don't see enough Trump references to know that that's the case. 3. You yourself said earlier that this wasn't probably a joke, just a plot point. Maybe the're not trying to make fun of Trump in (particular), but the same applies to every politician, whenever they refer to a particular one or not.


Quote:Sure, but it's all really subjective. You have to accept, that even your favorite show isn't made only for you. And that this particular show's creators are known to happily go from sophisticated philosophical ideas to stupid jokes in a manner of seconds - it's their stylistic choice, which I - for one - admire. 


I agree that humor is subjective. As I said earlier, you have the right to watch what you will. I still don't consider the show something for me.


Quote:No, but it doesn't automatically make it bad, either. Personally - I don't feel this season was on average worse than previous ones, although the novelty has worn off a bit, so it's easier to look at the show with a critical eye.


I personally still dislike it, but if you like it, more power to you. At the end of the day you decide what you should watch or not.
"By simple common sense I don't believe in God, in none"

Charlie Chaplin
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RE: I wan't to express, that I disliked Rick and Morty season 3 - by Der/die AtheistIn - February 6, 2019 at 2:33 pm

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