RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
February 9, 2019 at 7:21 pm
(This post was last modified: February 9, 2019 at 7:37 pm by CDF47.)
(February 8, 2019 at 12:34 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: That's not what jesus said, lol. I know..I know, you're not really that concerned with what jesus has to say. What's important is that you're totally not a monkey...because that would be bad..even if that's how god wanted it.
What Jesus had to say is of utmost importance to me. I've been studying it since my mother began reading the Bible to me at birth almost. Also, no, I am not descendant of a monkey.
(February 8, 2019 at 2:21 pm)pocaracas Wrote:(February 7, 2019 at 10:53 am)CDF47 Wrote: I base my beliefs regarding religion on science and faith. I am very convinced that I am right so I speak the way I do.
That's the problem. YOU are convinced.
But you should be aware that the fact that you're convinced is not assurance that the world functions as you are convinced it does. As such, you should be humble (and, if I remember my Indiana jones, being humble is a big plus for your religion) and let there be some doubt in the way you present your point of view.
And nothing of what you've given us can provide such a certainty as the one you have concerning this DNA business. Sure, the DNA "machinery" is impressive. Sure it is complex. Sure it seems to encode the blueprints for a living organism. But, and this has been said a million times, that does not give you any assurance of how this "machinery" came into being.
Science postulates an approach based on evolving structures. There is also no 100% certainty, but the mechanism is plausible and relies only on chemistry. Chemistry which is known to work in particular ways... often complex.
The mechanism that you are certain of is... unknown?.. just that some super entity has to be responsible for it. "Has to be" because you can't imagine such complexity arising through natural means. But your lack of imagination need not correlate with reality.
So, some humility, CDF, please.
I humbly state the facts. I stand firm on my beliefs though.
(February 8, 2019 at 2:37 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:(February 8, 2019 at 2:21 pm)pocaracas Wrote: That's the problem. YOU are convinced.
But you should be aware that the fact that you're convinced is not assurance that the world functions as you are convinced it does. As such, you should be humble (and, if I remember my Indiana jones, being humble is a big plus for your religion) and let there be some doubt in the way you present your point of view.
And nothing of what you've given us can provide such a certainty as the one you have concerning this DNA business. Sure, the DNA "machinery" is impressive. Sure it is complex. Sure it seems to encode the blueprints for a living organism. But, and this has been said a million times, that does not give you any assurance of how this "machinery" came into being.
Science postulates an approach based on evolving structures. There is also no 100% certainty, but the mechanism is plausible and relies only on chemistry. Chemistry which is known to work in particular ways... often complex.
The mechanism that you are certain of is... unknown?.. just that some super entity has to be responsible for it. "Has to be" because you can't imagine such complexity arising through natural means. But your lack of imagination need not correlate with reality.
So, some humility, CDF, please.
This quote covers it I think.
“What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so.”
― Mark Twain
CDF "knows for certain" something which is not true.
He will say "na ha that's you that is" but he has been proven wrong on every page of this thread. Every page.
No, I haven't.
(February 8, 2019 at 2:51 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:Quote:This was a scientific thread with religious implications. Then I was asked religious questions which is understandable.
It was never a scientific thread. The vast majority of scientists think this is hogwash.
And of course, like all religionists, you twist your little tale to make your particular cult look like the winner.
Yes, it was. Re-read the OP.
(February 8, 2019 at 3:13 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Nearly 1200 pages of complete and utter crap.
Not on my side.
(February 8, 2019 at 3:23 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:(February 8, 2019 at 11:15 am)CDF47 Wrote: I don't endorse slavery.Are you now claiming that you god was wrong to endorse it?
No, it was His will.
(February 9, 2019 at 12:22 am)Nay_Sayer Wrote:(June 26, 2018 at 8:34 pm)CDF47 Wrote: This was a scientific thread with religious implications. Then I was asked religious questions which is understandable.
(February 8, 2019 at 12:33 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I am not the one who is lost my friend.
Not only are you lost, but hopelessly so. Continued thoughts and prayers, Thou I regret your soul is doomed.
RAmen
Why can you not see the clear truth before your eyes?
(February 9, 2019 at 1:30 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:(February 8, 2019 at 3:13 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Nearly 1200 pages of complete and utter crap.
He is so stupid that he has chanted the mantra “I have no redeeming qualities” for 1200 pages and still it hasn’t sunken in. He still thinks by chanting it a few more times it would somehow inspire people to some nonexistent redeeming quality in him.
I know this is an emotional topic but I haven't attacked you personally. Just bringing you some facts you may not have been aware of. Some may like them and others may not but it's not a personal attack.
(February 9, 2019 at 5:50 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:(February 9, 2019 at 1:30 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: He is so stupid that he has chanted the mantra “I have no redeeming qualities” for 1200 pages and still it hasn’t sunken in. He still thinks by chanting it a few more times it would somehow inspire people to some nonexistent redeeming quality in him.
Ha. His current claim that he doesn't endorse slavery is demolished by his claim that his god was right to endorse slavery. It is a joke. not a good one.
There are reasons for the enslavement. The slaves and the masters are to serve God. There were many regulations for it.
The LORD Exists: http://www.godandscience.org/
Intelligent Design (Short Video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVkdQhNdzHU
Intelligent Design (Longer Video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzj8iXiVDT8
Intelligent Design (Short Video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVkdQhNdzHU
Intelligent Design (Longer Video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzj8iXiVDT8