(February 7, 2019 at 11:43 am)Nay_Sayer Wrote:

(June 26, 2018 at 8:34 pm)CDF47 Wrote: This was a scientific thread with religious implications.  Then I was asked religious questions which is understandable.

(February 7, 2019 at 10:53 am)CDF47 Wrote: It is a key word.  We are living in that story.

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Does she follow the God of the Bible?

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I base my beliefs regarding religion on science and faith.  I am very convinced that I am right so I speak the way I do.

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I do not endorse slavery.  God felt it was a just system under a righteous leader under certain regulations.

Wrong story. Bless.

RAmen

No, it's the right story.

(June 26, 2018 at 8:34 pm)CDF47 Wrote: This was a scientific thread with religious implications.  Then I was asked religious questions which is understandable.

(February 8, 2019 at 11:17 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(February 7, 2019 at 11:43 am)Nay_Sayer Wrote: Wrong story. Bless.

RAmen

No, it's the right story.

Nope. You'll get there one day little lost sheep.  Bless.
Ramen

(February 8, 2019 at 11:47 am)Nay_Sayer Wrote:

(June 26, 2018 at 8:34 pm)CDF47 Wrote: This was a scientific thread with religious implications.  Then I was asked religious questions which is understandable.

(February 8, 2019 at 11:17 am)CDF47 Wrote: No, it's the right story.

Nope. You'll get there one day little lost sheep.  Bless.
Ramen

I am not the one who is lost my friend.

That's not what jesus said, lol.  I know..I know, you're not really that concerned with what jesus has to say.  What's important is that you're totally not a monkey...because that would be bad..even if that's how god wanted it.

(February 7, 2019 at 10:53 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(February 7, 2019 at 3:47 am)pocaracas Wrote: Your certainty is suspicious and makes the content of your argument dubious at best.
And my "maybe" is there for intellectual honesty.

You could be humble enough to also include a "maybe", or a "most likely" in your speech... that would do wonders.

I base my beliefs regarding religion on science and faith.  I am very convinced that I am right so I speak the way I do.

That's the problem. YOU are convinced.
But you should be aware that the fact that you're convinced is not assurance that the world functions as you are convinced it does. As such, you should be humble (and, if I remember my Indiana jones, being humble is a big plus for your religion) and let there be some doubt in the way you present your point of view.

And nothing of what you've given us can provide such a certainty as the one you have concerning this DNA business. Sure, the DNA "machinery" is impressive. Sure it is complex. Sure it seems to encode the blueprints for a living organism. But, and this has been said a million times, that does not give you any assurance of how this "machinery" came into being.
Science postulates an approach based on evolving structures. There is also no 100% certainty, but the mechanism is plausible and relies only on chemistry. Chemistry which is known to work in particular ways... often complex.
The mechanism that you are certain of is... unknown?.. just that some super entity has to be responsible for it. "Has to be" because you can't imagine such complexity arising through natural means. But your lack of imagination need not correlate with reality.
So, some humility, CDF, please.

(February 8, 2019 at 2:21 pm)pocaracas Wrote:

(February 7, 2019 at 10:53 am)CDF47 Wrote: I base my beliefs regarding religion on science and faith.  I am very convinced that I am right so I speak the way I do.

That's the problem. YOU are convinced.
But you should be aware that the fact that you're convinced is not assurance that the world functions as you are convinced it does. As such, you should be humble (and, if I remember my Indiana jones, being humble is a big plus for your religion) and let there be some doubt in the way you present your point of view.

And nothing of what you've given us can provide such a certainty as the one you have concerning this DNA business. Sure, the DNA "machinery" is impressive. Sure it is complex. Sure it seems to encode the blueprints for a living organism. But, and this has been said a million times, that does not give you any assurance of how this "machinery" came into being.
Science postulates an approach based on evolving structures. There is also no 100% certainty, but the mechanism is plausible and relies only on chemistry. Chemistry which is known to work in particular ways... often complex.
The mechanism that you are certain of is... unknown?.. just that some super entity has to be responsible for it. "Has to be" because you can't imagine such complexity arising through natural means. But your lack of imagination need not correlate with reality.
So, some humility, CDF, please.

This quote covers it I think.


“What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so.”

― Mark Twain 

CDF "knows for certain" something which is not true.
He will say "na ha that's you that is" but he has been proven wrong on every page of this thread. Every page.

Quote:This was a scientific thread with religious implications.  Then I was asked religious questions which is understandable.

It was never a scientific thread. The vast majority of scientists think this is hogwash. 
And of course, like all religionists, you twist your little tale to make your particular cult look like the winner.

Nearly 1200 pages of complete and utter crap.

(February 8, 2019 at 11:15 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(February 7, 2019 at 11:10 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Oh, now you somehow know how god feels. By magic.

Let me embiggen it for you.

There is no time, place or circumstance that can possibly make slavery in any form moral.

You disagree. That alone makes you a vile, disgusting person. Let alone any of the other vomit you post.

I don't endorse slavery.

Are you now claiming that you god was wrong to endorse it?

He does not care, I will answer for him:

GODDIDIT!