Is atheism a belief?

[Abaddon_ire]

Sure but that is a straw man. The majority of atheists, if they think about it, (and most have) get right down to being unconvinced by the claims of the various claims of the thousands of bizarre claimants.** All of those claimants cannot be simultaneously be correct, yet all of those claimants are somehow the only true answer. None have any modicum of evidence.

What is one to make of that ball of baloney?

Make what you will of it.  I speak only for myself.  

My journey from devout Catholic to atheist took over 30 years.  It began with rejecting some of the more fatuous claims of the Catholic Church. Over decades, I read voraciously, and spoke to  members of other Christian flavours, as well as some Muslims. (whileI  lived in a Muslim country).

Also did some formals studies at University about aspects of Islam(plus lived in a Muslim country) and Hinduism, plus  a bit on some of the weirder Christian sects. So I guess your idea is probably pretty close to the process I went through, over all those years.

However,  I am unable to say what  'the majority of atheists ' think about anything. With respect, neither do you.  I keep saying this ,and it keeps getting ignored: ATHEISM IS NOT AN HOMOGENEOUS  POSITION. One can no more speak meaningfully about Atheists as a group than one can about Christians as a group.

I don't understand why my short explanation of the burden of proof is a straw man.  I think it's pertinent because  Christian apologists have  that burden. Agnostic atheist do not

To which ball of baloney do you refer? If you refer to my post, I'd appreciate if you would explain my errors. It will help me avoid the same mistakes in future. Or not...


**Sounds a lot like a no true Scotsman fallacy to me ,but I may be wrong.

Not your post, Bels bucket of crap.

ETA: Although since you put your post inside the quotes, I had a weird moment of recognising my own trajectory to the extent that I had to wonder. Did I post that?

Do yourself a favour. Put your text insertion point after the quotes. Putting them in the middle simply adds to the fog of war. My time is precious. So is yours. So is everyones on here and everywhere else. It takes not unconsiderable time to unpick which bits are yours and which bits are not, and even then there is no guarantee that one is correct. Let me be clear. So far, I am not arguing the content of what you post (we largely align in that regard). It is merely the presentation. It might sem like a petty quibble, but you want to say whatever it is you want to say. If I can't tell which are your words from your respondents, what am I to do then?